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HigHurtenflurst on 30 August 2013
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iamdeath said:
HigHurtenflurst said:

Yes but most people using it are also fine with the analogue sticks in a lower position away from the thumbs.

I wasn't trying to disrespect the PS4 controller specifically (hence my first sentence) just voicing my opinion on the previous PS controllers... looking at comparisons some of my personal issues do seem to be fixed/mitigated: The face buttons look to be slightly larger & closer together, and some issues more commonly mentioned such as convex sticks & triggers.

What is still the same though is the position of the sticks down and to the left of the thumbs, IMO too far down and to the left. I think the reason for this is because the basic layout of the PS controller was designed around 2D gaming, with the sticks added as an afterthought. The PS1 & 2 were so popular though that most gamers are used to holding the controller in that position (unless you have small hands you have to grip the controller in the crooks of your fingers rather than between fingers and the palms to comfortably reach the sticks)

Sticks being lower was never the issue with the dual shock 3......nor is it one. The sticks were too close togetehr and the controller was as ergonmic was the issue, plus isssues with the triggers. Sorry, but this Analog sticks have to be up higher is BS. Until you use the controller everything you post is nonsense. No one who has sued the controller has said anything of the like, many are saying it is the best next gen controller, and many of them preferred the 360 controller last gen.

Perhaps you didn't read what I wrote.

Sticks being lower IS the issue with the DS3 (et all) FOR ME.

Not sure what you mean by "controller was as ergonomic was the issue".

I do use the controller. I have a PS2, I have friends with PS3s and have spent enough time with the controllers to form an opinion on the basic layout and shape..... unless you are trying to say I can't have an opinion on the DS4 by comparing it's looks to the DS2/3, just because my experience with the DS4 is purely visual does not mean I have to wait to hold it before I figure out it has the same major ergonomic issue for me. A simple visual comparison is enough to see that if I put my palms onto the rests and my index fingers on the triggers, my thumbs are still not going to easily reach the sticks.

I can point out flaws with all the controllers I have used, In general the DS series are good controllers, I just think of the 3D gaming generations they are at the lower end on a comfort scale (though still above Dreamcast and original XB of course) GameCube and X360 are to me the most comfortable to hold, but I am not a fan of the X360 face buttons (and of course the d-pad, but not many of my games need it so it's not a huge issue for me) and the GC click stop triggers always annoyed me for FPS (and the lack of clickable sticks & a 2nd left trigger) Are you going to jump down my throat for pointing out flaws in X360 & GC controllers too?