kowenicki said:
iamdeath said:
kowenicki said:
iamdeath said:
This thread was laughably one sided, maybe try to at least pretend to be objective? Easy to tell an xbox fan made it. MS made their bed, take it like a man geez.
I bet when the ps3 ws being blasted for several years and made fun of you were nowhere in site saying it was "Unfair".
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Go find where I ever criticised the PS3 back then. I never did, I never have really, I rarely if ever criticise hardware or games.... I just fdont buy them if I dont like them. Consumer have a choice right, their real power isnt being vocal about it, it is simply not buying the product.
As I recall Sony was only criticised due to the price of the PS3, the fans rallied to say "its worth it" and that was pretty much that. Sony reduced the price in quick time (had their own 180) and the rest is history, it wasnt a big deal. This is far bigger.
But.... If you could be arsed to read the whole article (I didnt wirte it, its from the Guardian's gaming commentator) and stopped being so ironic in your posts you would see that it actually attacks all sides of the gaming forum community, this isnt about the XB1 in isolation.
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I never said YOU criticized the Ps3...........And it was a lot more then price, Sony took a tonne of heat for numerous issues, including lack of games, price, poor network, terrible marketing, hard development environment.
This is NOT far bigger, Sony was going DREAMCAST many were saying for a good long while even major media outlets, and if you owned a PS3 you were ridiculed. You're seeing this from a very biased point of view obviously. Even big developers (John carmack, Gabe newell, publically called sony out)
The gaming community is trash yes, but MS really did deserve a lot of the bashing, what were they thinking? I mean almost anyone could have predicted a backlash with what they were proposing.
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Sony was never going Dreamcast, people have selective memories. PS3 had a more successful launch than the 360, it just wasnt PS2, but it was never going to be.
The point is that if you propose anything other than the status quo these days you will get a backlash.... if you propose it first... of course its ok to do it later and blame the market. Change is a four letter word in gaming.
The industry is constantly pandering to fanboys, using language they love and not making good business decisions. Thats not healthy. That is a criticism of MS along with all the rest. If the whole industry continues to pander to fanboys and the "hardcore" then I believe it will be a mistake leading to at the worst high profile casualties and at best the stifling of innovation allowing others to come up on the fence and take the initiative. To emphasise this I believe MS should have stuck to their policies.
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The fact that ps3 was never going dreamcast was not really the point. I do agree with some of what you are saying though, the gaming media is really immature, the industry as a whole is. Even the reviews are not professional, gaming has a long way to go.
With regards to the x1 however, i do not agree, MS were way too soon forcing anti-consumer policies on an industry that simply isn't ready. That backlash was warrented imo. To me that showed the true intent of a company, and it certainyl never had the consumers interest at heart.
