7 Reasons the World Looks Worse Than It Really Is

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Kasz216 said:

A) That's my point.  Complaining that the guy you didn't vote and wouldn't of voted for isn't doing what you want is kind of dumb.

B)  Stuff like failing to increase minium wage isn't really making people poorer, again you are mostly complaining about stuff they haven't done.  Not specific measures that specifically make the poor pooer, except whatever a bedroom tax is.  We don't have that in the US.

C)  Your representation of the US Medical system isn't accurate.   You can get medical treatment in the US if you don't have insurance, it just costs  a lot of money.  Nobody is actually barred from treatment... some people to forgo it because they don't want to pay the costs.  By the time you can't afford medical treatment anymore, you qualify for government assitance.

Now I'm not sure about the UK, but in the US pretty much anybody who is very smart will get into a college pretty easy.  State colleges are pretty reasonable and loans are really easy to get.   In the US if anything we have too many people going to college.

Additionally the problem is, you really aren't thinking about the negative effects of college.   If EVERYONE went to college, suddenly everyone has degrees.

Which actually has some problems...

1) Due to supply and demand, average wages drop dramatically.  Suddenly there are 5-6 times the people applying for jobs in these fields.  Companies can and will pay much less... and since there will still be the same number of people to work at McDonalds and they don't care about your degree, low level jobs won't pay more.   Afterall a lot of these jobs are less work and more emoitonally rewarding then a job like McDonalds so put enough people up for those jobs who seem qualfied and they'll be willing to take huge pay cuts.

2) Due to the vast increase in degrees, nepotism, legacies and in general hiring people you know will vastly increase.  There are way more people in the work force now, and the percentage of people who will be awful will increase.   People hire others they know, not so much to help there friends and family, but more so because they already know these people.  Often times they know these people won't be the best, but they also know these people won't be the worst.  They know they can leave them with the keys to the shop and not get robbed.  Employers are hiring people to help with what is their source of income so a feeling a saftey is important.

When increasing the number of applicants, and lets be honest here, the majority of them will be horrible, you increase the risk that those you do deeply interview and/or hire will be terrible.  Hence a stronger look "within.".   Or looking at a workers background, what do their parents do etc.  In an attempt to lower class barriers, you actually increase them.   Even within the same class, as people will be more pressured to join the family buisness because of how much harder it is to get a job as an "outsider".

 

3)  Additionally because of the above companies will be far more conservative about hiriing, hiring slower and expanding slower, slowing the job market for nice middle class jobs.  Or what were nice middle class jobs anyway.  

 

4) People will be less happy with their work.

http://businessjournal.gallup.com/content/163469/educated-less-engaged.aspx

 

And that's just now... think how unhappy all those excess college graduates will be when they're all working at Wal-Mart unable to get jobs because their is a new rise in nepotism.  Or hpw unhappy those lucky enough to get jobs will be... after they realize they are making far less at their jobs then their predecessors did.

 

Or at least that's one way for it to go.  The other way is that certain colleges become the "elite" colleges, find a way to monetize it, and then hiring only comes from those colleges, making the whole idea moot, except now even more people go to school for 4 year degrees that mean nothing.

 

Of course that said... the new Obama plan meant to cut down on college aid also seems perilious and set up for disaster.

http://www.npr.org/2013/08/22/214520122/does-the-data-exist-to-make-college-rating-system-work

A) Isn't politics a giant debate anyways? I mean so what if i couldn't vote back then, i still have the right to disagree with him and protest against him. This isn't China

B) Bedroom tax is a tax on public housing, for those who have a spare bedroom. The main problem is that people who use public housing are the poorest in society. But yeah it's something specific to the UK.

C) I just don't like how there is a financial barrier to healthcare in America, i would rather have everyone pay higher tax to have equal access. 

1) I know it's not good for everyone to get a degree as it wouldn't be so valuable but people need to not be so ignorant of things in general. They need to be aware of stuff like politics, economy, history etc. Ignorance breeds stupidity and hatred and is why groups like KKK still exist (even though it is very small now). We need a balance between those who do specialised jobs and just ordinary jobs. And people need to be aware of what happens out there in the world too. 

2) I tend to agree with alot of what you say here

3) If the world is generally like this, why do people still believe in the American dream? Knowing they likely won't make it.

4) It's bit like in Cuba then where the doctors don't get paid very well so end up taking secondary jobs like taxi drivers. A bit of waste studying all those years isn't it? 

But anyway, as much as a problem in having too many graduates out there. I still don't think higher education should be a thing that's run for profit, knowledge is a wonderful thing that frees people from the tyranny of ignorance regardless of what they use it for. All education should be free for those who want to get a better job or just know more about a specific field.

And yeah, i think that proposals to rate schools is just wrong. What if you are smart but you had no choice but to go to a crap school? Then you are discriminated against despite your inteligience. The cost of higher education as it stands stop some of the brightest minds who may happen to be poorer are stopped from doing well in life.