realgamer on 26 August 2013
| ethomaz said: It is happening right now.
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Insider Daily. Does MS not allowed to public XBO specs till 29 Sep by Intel-AMD-Sony x86 agreement?
/that will be a little bit crypted to prevent automatic sentence analysers do their job/
Insider: There not going to go into 100% detail at hotchips.. go back to the wired picks mistercteam. See the diagram gpu core and cpu core that are labelled on the motherboard .. that is the other gpu and cpu? As these photos are of older x1 dev kit they were not available.. w2w will merge these chips buy wafer 2 wafer and incorparte the oban.... But as of right now ms are split in to three categories or level control... that seems to be the reason why there is no real pr to specify the detail. And so many problems have happen.. But a lot of the fanboy's do not understand. Sony has a contract in place with AMD that specified that they would have total control over the hardware public relations aspect. Which runs out on 29 September 2013.. up intill this date Microsoft is not allowed to go public. It is in the license agreement with Intel as well. Sony had a67 month exclusive hardware agreement basically. First in best served. This has not effected nintendo as they using different cpus.. And this sort of thing happens all the time in the pc cpu and gpu markets.. .. sad but true. :)
Misterx: So, MS gave AMD billions and not allowed to talk about what they spend thouse billions for? That also means PS4 will have similar hardware I.e >1.8TF...and how could MS be not the first served with AMD?
Or is it all because of Intel-AMD x86 agreements? So who blocked MS
from speak? That is only related to APU or it is x86 inside dGPU too?
Insider: Sorry but ms did not give AMD billions.. You are miss informed...Up until now Microsoft had not had contractual agreements to modify x86-64 architecture or manufacturing agreements with intel.. Amd is the only other company to be allowed to manufacture and modify x86 x64 cpus. And Mark cerny had decided to pursue AMD for Sony and obtained licences agreements why back in 2010. And Sony could obtain agreements with Amd early only if they did not modify the x86 cores.. hence the of the shelf nature and all most tablet simplicity of the cpu :) gpu is another story.. The disrupt is Microsoft could not fab the chip ether, due to its ultra custom design. So this three billion that is floating around the internet. 3 billion is a small price to pay for any large corporate body specially when it has the contractual agreement that allows the corporate body to modify the chips for the next 100+ years. And the upside is Amd even agreed to fab them as well.. :)
Misterx: So, what is the main idea? Still 2-3 more pwrfl? 😊 Or S could surprise with updated specs?
Insider: Microsoft has had a lot of designs and a hell of a lot of changers. There was a down clock I wont lie to the xbox fan's .. they had to downclock the 1 ghz dgpu 147mhz down to 853mhz. In the last phase of development. But they also gained a massive bandwidth gain to the ddr ram and esram by doing so. The mars and venus codenames of the gpus really had nothing to do with the gpus specs.. it was just used as a reference. The cloud based side of one is a factual one.. But id rather you use it first before I commit to any comment.. but changes have happen in regards to that aspect. And for the best :)
there is all ways surprises coming.
Misterx: So, no good news for xbox fans? Sony could upgrade to 3.2....MSs PR dissaster to continue....Not 2-3 times more powerfull....and so on..;))
Insider: The x1 is more powerful.. and it supports games at 2k and full upscale to 4k some games will support 4k later.. ill let you do the maths :)
I will follow up... Any body with a thought in technology and gpu specifications. Will tell you there is no way on earth that a sub low end gpu with 748 shader cores. Is going to be doing any type of justice to a ten year plan. Not only that it couldnt even manage 16 players @ 720p 30fps in bf4. Every part of x1 is a custom silicon. A 100 million dollar budget for the control.. lol fanboys are delusional at this point in time... :)
Misterx: Well, thank you a lot for the info! We should wait more for NDA to expire.
Insider:Yes I would suggest everybody wait.. Hotchips will go into some parts about the silicon. Apu. Oban. And kinect.. there really is more stuff going on.. as kinect has two chips. Then their is Apu+dgpu and the dsp for video and audio. We should get clock speeds and what cpu core specs. and what is modified and why. :)
Insider: There not going to go into 100% detail at hotchips.. go back to the wired picks mistercteam. See the diagram gpu core and cpu core that are labelled on the motherboard .. that is the other gpu and cpu? As these photos are of older x1 dev kit they were not available.. w2w will merge these chips buy wafer 2 wafer and incorparte the oban.... But as of right now ms are split in to three categories or level control... that seems to be the reason why there is no real pr to specify the detail. And so many problems have happen.. But a lot of the fanboy's do not understand. Sony has a contract in place with AMD that specified that they would have total control over the hardware public relations aspect. Which runs out on 29 September 2013.. up intill this date Microsoft is not allowed to go public. It is in the license agreement with Intel as well. Sony had a67 month exclusive hardware agreement basically. First in best served. This has not effected nintendo as they using different cpus.. And this sort of thing happens all the time in the pc cpu and gpu markets.. .. sad but true. :)
Misterx: So, MS gave AMD billions and not allowed to talk about what they spend thouse billions for? That also means PS4 will have similar hardware I.e >1.8TF...and how could MS be not the first served with AMD?
Or is it all because of Intel-AMD x86 agreements? So who blocked MS
from speak? That is only related to APU or it is x86 inside dGPU too?
Insider: Sorry but ms did not give AMD billions.. You are miss informed...Up until now Microsoft had not had contractual agreements to modify x86-64 architecture or manufacturing agreements with intel.. Amd is the only other company to be allowed to manufacture and modify x86 x64 cpus. And Mark cerny had decided to pursue AMD for Sony and obtained licences agreements why back in 2010. And Sony could obtain agreements with Amd early only if they did not modify the x86 cores.. hence the of the shelf nature and all most tablet simplicity of the cpu :) gpu is another story.. The disrupt is Microsoft could not fab the chip ether, due to its ultra custom design. So this three billion that is floating around the internet. 3 billion is a small price to pay for any large corporate body specially when it has the contractual agreement that allows the corporate body to modify the chips for the next 100+ years. And the upside is Amd even agreed to fab them as well.. :)
Misterx: So, what is the main idea? Still 2-3 more pwrfl? 😊 Or S could surprise with updated specs?
Insider: Microsoft has had a lot of designs and a hell of a lot of changers. There was a down clock I wont lie to the xbox fan's .. they had to downclock the 1 ghz dgpu 147mhz down to 853mhz. In the last phase of development. But they also gained a massive bandwidth gain to the ddr ram and esram by doing so. The mars and venus codenames of the gpus really had nothing to do with the gpus specs.. it was just used as a reference. The cloud based side of one is a factual one.. But id rather you use it first before I commit to any comment.. but changes have happen in regards to that aspect. And for the best :)
there is all ways surprises coming.
Misterx: So, no good news for xbox fans? Sony could upgrade to 3.2....MSs PR dissaster to continue....Not 2-3 times more powerfull....and so on..;))
Insider: The x1 is more powerful.. and it supports games at 2k and full upscale to 4k some games will support 4k later.. ill let you do the maths :)
I will follow up... Any body with a thought in technology and gpu specifications. Will tell you there is no way on earth that a sub low end gpu with 748 shader cores. Is going to be doing any type of justice to a ten year plan. Not only that it couldnt even manage 16 players @ 720p 30fps in bf4. Every part of x1 is a custom silicon. A 100 million dollar budget for the control.. lol fanboys are delusional at this point in time... :)
Misterx: Well, thank you a lot for the info! We should wait more for NDA to expire.
Insider:Yes I would suggest everybody wait.. Hotchips will go into some parts about the silicon. Apu. Oban. And kinect.. there really is more stuff going on.. as kinect has two chips. Then their is Apu+dgpu and the dsp for video and audio. We should get clock speeds and what cpu core specs. and what is modified and why. :)
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