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richardhutnik on 26 August 2013
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Viper1 said:
Jumpin said:
It's because both Conservatism and Libertarianism are both ideologies which reward the greedy and punish those in unfortunate situations.

The biggest difference between them are that conservatives are more honest to themselves about the consequences of their ideology in that they create a situation where the rich and greedy are awarded with freedom and power. Not too dissimilar from the high class of a fascist society.

Actually, Libertarians expect those in unfortunate situations to be helped by individuals through volunteerism and private sector involement.   Rather than being forced to support others, they want the choice to be theirs.  It doesn't make them greedy or want to punish those of unfortunate circumstances.  You need to understand that it's not that they don't want those that need help to be able to get help, they simply believe that help should come from a different source.

They also believe that their policies would reduce the number of people in those unfortunate situations to begin with.

Not all Libertarians do expect this.  Some just don't care if the unfortunate are helped.  You have someone under the influence of Ayn Rand, and it would be preferable that the disadvantaged losers just die off, so the successful can be honored as they should be.

Thing about the disadvantaged is that people don't want to be shown as not caring, and what things to be done to help them, BUT indivduals feel fairly powerless to do anything.  And my take is most people can't really.  Because of this, the government steps in.

And if I am wrong here and people can do things, I definitely would be interested from hearing from anyone who can help me.  I am very much set back.  But, I don't see anyone really stepping forth in a meaningful way.  I mean, seriously, anyone know a real job out there I can do out there?  I would definitely like to hear about it.

I say all this, because you see this as most common to least common in forms of way people will address issues:

* Prayer and advice

* Money

* Thoughts and attention (thinking solutions)

* Working towards solving (putting sweat in)

* Committing one's life towards resolving.

 

Because of this, you see people more inclined to vote for people who do things, and allocate tax dollars, and pay taxes, than will actually go out and do things.  And if I am wrong, and anyone is dead serious about addressing current problems, contact me.  Otherwise, it will show that the libertarian hope for volunteerism, is merely a hope and not reality.  In a world where there are LOTS of people, it is easy for people to presume that people's concerns will get addressed by someone, when such isn't necessarily the case.  In short, the other source, isn't the people who want to the difference who are the difference source, but some sort of magic that it will appear, when it might not.