secpierre34 said:
Accela said:
secpierre34 said:
Accela said:
secpierre34 said:
DJEVOLVE said:
Please explain your vote.
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The bible response is that he can't because of free will. If you choose to do it he can't stop you.
To have free will you need option, you can never be good without choosing not to be bad. Ying and Yeng, one can't exist without the other. But the choice is yours
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So what about the people who are raped/murdered/tortured against their will? Apparently god cares more about the free will of the bad guys than that of the victims. If god is omnipotent, he could have made the universe without a necessity of evil.
Also, natural disasters, disease, plagues, and famine have nothing to do with humanity's choices in being good or bad.
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The point is that without these things we wouldn't be humans. IF everything at been well from the beginning you would not know it is. I would prefer that we as human fix ourselves rather than waiting for someone or something to do it. That is the point of christianity really, to become a better self and to give others the help to achieve it. Lunatics often misconstrue the bible in the wrong way, thus we have idiots like Michelle Bachman, but the smarter 2 billion know better. You would not wish for good if you did not know what bad is, and perhaps we need bad to enjoy the good in life.
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Imagine if there was no evil. There could still be good, better, and best. Is it really neccessary that humanity suffers to this extent?
The way god has it, the bad people are punished for eternity while the victims' lives are ruined. It may make our lives look better when compared to theirs, but those negative experiences are not helpful to those who are involved.
If good cannot exist without evil as you say, then how does eternal bliss exist in heaven?
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Because you already know what evil is then you can know good. And by the way that is not just a bible/christian thing. it is a psych thing. You can't know how bad or how good you have it without perspective. Perspective is expanded by option and choice. If you only knew good, then it would not even make sense to you what good is. How can you define a good action without knowing what is not a good action. My point is that in a world without evil and purely good, you would not know that it is good because you never understood that it could be bad. It's like living in a forest for your entire life without knowing about toilets and paper towels. Would that person think he is dirty without wiping since he doesn't even know what wiping is?
It is also the same thing as being raised in a purely evil place SInce you never knew what is good, evill is as good as it gets for you.
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I dont believe in evil, but saying you need evil to understand good is lame. There is absolutely no need to know about evil to know about "good"...there are enough natural events like diseases, hurricanes, earthquakes, accidents, fires, etc. that kill and hurt people to know about the opposite of that crap. Evil is completely unnesscary...and does not ensure we know about good.
