Mr Khan said:
sc94597 said:
killerzX said:
not going to happen, the party's platform moves further from libertarianism and gets more more statist every election cycle.
i can forsee the the republican party perhaps fracturing, or splitting. we are starting to see that already. We have the establisment republicans that are progressive/ big governments-lite, and then you have the tea party types and the libertarian wings of the party. the latter groups or genuinelly for limited constituional government, the former part of the republican party as different from the democratic party as many people think. the last 4 years there has sort of been a clash within the republican party, of where its member want it to go.
but as for libertarianism gaining ground within the democratic party. not a chance, there's a greater probability of a 3rd party playing a major part in a presidential election than the DNC getting libertarians
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The two-party system doesn't allow for splits. Just shifts in paradigms. This election cycle has shown a more libertarian Republican house, and with some work we can have a libertarian Republican senate. After the Bush era, and the failure of Obama's "promises" there has been a shift among the general public toward libertarianism of some extent (at least 1/3rd of the U.S population according to polls.) As for the democratic party, once the republican establishment falls (which it is currently) so will it's twin the the democratic party. You'll see more influence from both left-wing libertarians and with the common interests right-wing libertarians. Overall we'll she a shift toward the right (smaller government) because it's necessary for the left-winged libertarians to reach their goals.
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I think instead that we're going to have a Populist/Progressive split, similar to the turn or so of the 20th century, where the social conservatives are going to ally with Big Labor, we'll see a split in the African American community, and libertarians will have certain planks prominently positioned on both sides (though both sides will still have stuff libertarians hate, their issues will move up in the pecking order).
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I'm expecting left-wingers to turn to small-government (minarchic) syndicalism (as opposed to state-socialist progressivism) and right-wingers to turn to small government, free-market capitalism. It's quite obvious that both sides of the economic spectrum are disillusioned with the state's control. Centralized state market socialism hasn't been working in certain cities (Detroit for example), while crony capitalism (essentially mercantilism) hasn't been working in others. Overall, we can at least hope for a shrinking of the warfare-state and with demographic changes (older populations) the same must hold for the welfare state, albeit after the collapse of the system by massive debt.
A push for syndicalism might bring back (private) union power, which has been in decline, by the way.
Overall, I don't expect things to keep going as they are. These interventionist policies are not sustainable and if the political process doesn't change it, unforseen consequences will.
