Why would conservative and libertarian be considered the same thing?

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DevilRising said:

killerzX said:

 

anyway the democratic party (including: modern day liberals, progressives, fascists, totalitarians, communists/socialists, and statists)  is a complete lost cause when it comes to liberty and the constitution and are virtual polar oposites from libertarians.

I'm sorry, but it's hilarious (in a bad way) that you actually think all that shit you just typed ("fascists, totalitarians, communists, etc") actually has anything at all to with the modern American Democratic Party. If you earnestly believe that, you're incredibly misinformed. Fox News and talk radio can be very bad for the mind.

I don't watch fox news or listen to talk radio. I feel the same way as him. If the government running my life for me, and launching spy planes, and the NSA, the IRS abusing its powers, and the arming of a massive domestic force (not army or police, but DHS) isn't the beginnings of totalitarianism than what is?