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badgenome said:
SxyxS said:

the neoconservatives never ever were interessted in bringing democracy to any place on this planet.

They have several problems in their own country with democracy .

And no:They are not stupid.

The biggest trick of politicians is to make people believe that they are stupid.They are not,but they know as long as people belive that they are stupid they can get away with anything,because people will punish and/or kill smart man with evil intentions,but they will forgive the stupid for the same crimes. 

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

Politicians, at least in my country, are often genuinely stupid because they are a bunch of intellectual inbreds who all attend the same schools, talk exclusively to people who agree with them about everything, and never do anything of actual merit before landing in elected office. They live perfectly insular lives and never have any idea of what kind of chaos they've wrought because they don't experience the consequences of their actions. Such a person could hardly end up any other way than stupid. Or, more precisely, ignorant, because their natural intelligence isn't being questioned here.

Well,Ignorance is(just after stupidity) the 2nd best weapon the politicians use,especially in the usa because the usa have the most ignorant population in the western world(ignorance in europe does not work that good) but the situation in France and UK is pretty similar.In France almost all politicians come from the same elite-universities(right now france government isn't just dominated by people from the ENA but most of them are from the same age group-no coincidence),in england it's hard to find a politician without oxford/cambridge background and the actual prime minister is married to one of the top elite families(astor).Guess which countries are the worst warmongering in europe?france and england

The only difference maybe that you have to be smart in europe to pass college and that us politicians not only attend the same schools but they are specially organised in lodges like skull and bones and they meet every year at the bohemian grove.This means they are better organised and coordinated though most of them maybe really corrupt and stupid.And this is not a work of stupid men.

Believe me,stupid men would never be able to provocate and create wars for decades,to fool people systematically and stay at the top of power for so long.

Obama eg is not stupid(though he seems to be part of the inbred as he confirmed to be a cousin of cheney) nor had he ever the time or the social background to become ignorant(not while being part of a minority in indonesia,not in the usa),but there is almost no difference between him and bush in his actions(exept the fact that he received the nobel peace prize for not being bush).

I'm pretty sure all of them know that the usa are supporting 100% repressive terrorists dictatorships like saudi arabia or qatar.They all know that every time the usa is promising help they bring hell and the situation is getting far worser than it was before us-help(in iraq,in lybia,in afghanistan)they all know that the usa have replaced democratic goverments in south america with dictatorships several times and they know that the country that is producing and exporting the most weapons on earth(usa) need to empty the weapon storehouses by creating situations(wars) where old weapons can be used  ,exported and replaced with new ones.

 

Another thing:As you wrote:they(politicians) never experience the consequences of their action and live insular ,isolated lives and attend the same schools.They have 0 contact with ordinary people-do you really think such guys are interessted in bringing democracy to other countries??No.They don't give a shit about their own people(us citizens)

why should they care about people in Syria-they are just interessted in keeping and improving their status quo.They invented this "bring democracy-for-arabs" thing just as excuse for another war as it is very hard in times of internet to fabricate and keep up lies like they did before-they were caught lying too many times, but making war hidden as philantropic humanitarian help still works.