Manning sentenced to 35 years

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mai said:

sc94597 said:
This thread borderlines itself with hypernationalistic tendencies. When people use the word "country" they really mean "nation-state" or in the context of the U.S, since there exists no single nation, "state." According to the law of the land, both Manning and Snowden did the right thing by notifying the sovereign entity (the populous) of illegal activities instituted by their employees (the government.) Morally, for anybody who prides some degree of individualism, Manning and Snowden informed the individuals (not some silly construct of a nation which doesn't exist in the U.S) about the intrusions of their individual liberties by the U.S government. All in all, they were right, the state was wrong, and that's why they were(or would be) punished.

Of course, the US is a single nation, historically, politically etc.

 

//This's fascinating how deeply people are trapped inside that system vs. dissident myth, which is understandable if you're aware of political context of the given audience. Nevertheless I posted few words about that the other day, an Elysium review of sorts, doesn't seem like anybody got that or simply didn't care. Wrong audience it is.

"Nation" in the context I'm using (as referring to nation-states) is not a political term, it's a socioeconomic one analagous to the term "ethnicity" and historically the U.S was even more divided than it is today in terms of politics and economics. 

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=nation

c.1300, from Old French nacion "birth, rank; descendants, relatives; country, homeland" (12c.) and directly from Latin nationem (nominative natio) "birth, origin; breed, stock, kind, species; race of people, tribe," literally "that which has been born," from natus, past participle of nasci "be born" (Old Latin gnasci; see genus). Political sense has gradually predominated, but earliest English examples inclined toward the racial meaning "large group of people with common ancestry." Older sense preserved in application to North American Indian peoples (1640s). Nation-building first attested 1907 (implied in nation-builder).