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koffieboon said:
HappySqurriel said:

In my opinion, the Republicans can win if they can get voters to vote based on the issues ...

Obhama is a very charismatic speaker (albeit has a speech writer who likes to "borrow" elements from other speakers) who can inspire people but when it comes to the issues he is quite terrifying; he seems like a HUGE government liberal and many of his policies could be considered fascistic.


Care to explain or do you just believe everything right wing tv channels say?

Anyway, from an outside perspective the Bush administration, with the aid of a Republican Congress, made a complete mess of the US, do people really expect a new Republican president to fix it?


Hillary Clinton and Barrak Obhama both claim to be (and are) progressives in the classical sense, the unfortunate problem is the vast majority of people do not know what the progressive era was all about. From Wikipedia:

Characteristics of progressivism

  • Favorable attitude toward urban-industrial society
  • Belief in mankind's ability to improve environment & conditions of life
  • Belief in obligation to intervene in economic and social affairs
  • Belief in ability of experts and in efficency of government intervention
  • When either of the candidates talk about an issue there is an underlying theme of reducing the rights and responsibilities of individuals in order to protect them from themself; in other words they talk about the reduction of the individual in favour of the state. The fundimemtal principle of Fascism is the supremacy of the state and the elimination of individual considerations.