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Kasz216 on 22 August 2013
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Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
mai said:
theprof00 said:

That image presents a valid counter-point to all the "if you're doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear" bs justifying PRISM and such.


Seriously though... did Manning actually release anything useful?  I don't really remember anything.  Were the Palestinian Papers Manning?

 

All I remember is a bunch of silly back channel foreign policy comments.  Nothing actually worthy of a leak.   Unlike Snowden, the whole Manning thing just seemed like it was done because they had an axe to grind with the US government.


For reasons that have just recently become known.

I think there was a fair bit of relevant information in there, about abuses by various Army and Marine personell in Iraq and Afghanistan, and Manning likely would have a much better PR going for him/her if that was all he/she had chosen to disclose rather than the banal diplomatic cables.

Also, not revealing his/her transgender status until the conviction makes it sound like a plea for attention (i know it's serious, but the way it comes out like this makes it sound like he just went off the deep end, woke up one day and told the guards "I am now Chelsea."). It's going to make for all sorts of uncomfortable matters for the T in LGBT, especially if this was Manning's motive.

Was there?  The only thing I picked up on was some cases where journalists and such were accidentally fired on.  To me they aren't crimes or abuses until they're intentional.  Though yeah, i think the huge dirth of well... more or less worthless cables that were the equivlent of revealing intercouple gossip at the end of a party really did hurt their PR.

 

As for the transgender stuff... I imagine the reason she waited until now was because of her lawyer.  Holding on to it as a card to play at setencing, so the prosecution couldn't be prepared for it.

 

I mean the Military's treatment of the transgender certaintly does go a long way in explaining why someome would release all of those cables.