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Euphoria14 said:
TheSting said:
Euphoria14 said:

This begs the question then...

If they have a two-way conversation going on with the community then how did they end up making a console that was anything but what the community wanted?

That only happens when you don't listen.


& this begs the question 

 

How many gamers knew about the total system to have a two way conversation?

Beats me, I don't follow everyone's tweets, PSblog posts, surveys, etc... However, one came out being what consumers wanted while the other had to adjust their policies to the match the other. That says it all.

I don't fully understand the point of your question. Is it to say we didn't know exactly what the PS4 would have? If so, of course they didn't, but obviously they listened throughout the years and sculpted it based on surveys, tweets, PSblog posts, etc... While the other only cared to move things in a direction most beneficial to to themselves.

yes, I am saying that I found the initial XBone to be very anticonsumer. Many others did as well, hence the backlash they got.


1st they put it back to the way the 360 is now. Kinect less etc... 

Point of my question was in response to yours which basically said. How could they have a two way and release something the fans didn't want?

My question basically said the fans didn't have a two way because they didn't even know it was going to be like that till after it was showcased. 

Seems like imo your POV is that the fans knew ahead of time had a two way and MS didn't listen. I'm saying no one knew so how can they have a two way? They had a vision they released it the community outcry which was vocal forced them to go back to the way 360 is now excluding the new features of course.