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pokoko said:
bigd615 said:

I have to agree with sales. Most people don't just buy an $18 membership and nothing else and if they do can they be counted as PS+ members since they no longer have the membership. Most get it for a year so $50 is the best estimate. Now the actual number most likely is more than 3 million subscribers imo as there were probably a lot of new memberships created in the later part of 2012 (including myself I believe) but that is pretty much just speculation. So while yes the number COULD be as high as 7.77 million, 1 $18 subscription, it probably isn't. It is somewhere between 2.8 and 7.77 million probably on the lower end as many members had more than 1 $18 subscription. Anything beyond that is pure speculation and there is absolutely no reason to get mad at someone for suggesting 3 million as an estimate. They might be wrong, but with the numbers given, it's the best starting point. 2013 should give much clearer numbers.

Hold on a second.  He started the insults and you're telling me I shouldn't get mad?  Uh, yeah.

I KNOW it won't be 7.77M, just as it won't be 2.8M, either.  That was my ENTIRE POINT.  I don't get what you're saying.  I shouldn't point something like that out?  It was wrong of me to attempt to clarify?  

Clarifying is fine. Calling someone "BLOODY STUPID" "obtuse" and cursing at them is pushing the limit imo. While you are definitely correct in the fact that it is more than 2.8M it could've been done more tactfully. But his method of estimating the numbers, while low, is as sound of a concrete number as you can get without more numbers or speculating. 

But as far as him throwing out insults, I've always been the type to mostly ignore them on the Internet when directed at me so maybe I'm not the best judge on that, but throwing out more isn't going to calm the situation and will look poorly on yourself.