antfromtashkent said:
dsgrue3 said:
3. No one addressed extremism in any capacity. What is so difficult to understand about that? What has been addressed is fundamentalism and mainstream religion.
1. I have no issue with religious people. It isn't their fault they were indoctrinated from a young age. But it's time to admit it...and stop propagating that ritualistic coercion. That's where I come in. To point out that from the perspective of someone who was not indoctrinated by it, it seems laughably absurd. The logical position is that of a skeptic and not to be credulous.
2. I will continue to speak ill of nonsensical things, but religion is a very pernicious beast. I share hatred for astrology, ghosts, witchcraft, voodoo, and anything else devoid of evidence or rationalism. But notice these other things aren't systems of belief where if one doesn't abide by them they go to hell, so there is much less influence.
1. No provocation? Amusing that you pretend to understand my life. Needless to say, you're incorrect in that assumption.
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1. This is your first post in this thread:
"40% of Americans believe the Sun revolves around the Earth and God supplanted humans on Earth less than 10,000 years ago.
And you wonder why the non-religious have a problem with these scientifically illiterate simpletons.
It is DESTRUCTIVE. There is no "hey man, let anyone believe what they want." Then what the fuck is the point of education? Aren't we supposed to be passing off KNOWLEDGE, not BULLSHIT? Oh you believe that the light spectrum is only 3 wavelengths? Fascinating, but wrong. Do you understand yet?
Time to get a clue and stop purporting unsubstantiated belief systems as dogma."
I dont know what happend in your life that made you the way that you are and I dont care. All I care about is that you are spewing hate. Did you notice that I did not bring up my beliefs yet?
2. Thats fine, that your choice. I'm just trying to show you that you are being hipocritical.
3. Ok, we are not getting anywhere here so you can keep your shallow definition of extremism. To me it's anything to do with forcing religion on someone else, and that is clearly in the comic.
PS: Your second and fourth paragraphs are contradictory, even if you are just implying.
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So your position is that all religion is extreme? If so, then I share that sentiment. Otherwise, I'm not sure where you're coming from.
Well, I could have made it clearer. I take no issues with non-fundamentlist religious people - the ones who don't take things verbatim, understand that allegories exist, and apply them appropriately to have some sense of cogence with the natural world. The fundamentalists should really be met with nothing but mockery. I do take issue with these, but only for spreading nonsense. If nonsense has popularity, people tend to commit the argumentum ad populum fallacy.
It's difficult to fault children for credulity, so I don't want to blame the people themselves, but ultimately the people are at fault. You can't blame the dogma itself because that's nonsensical. The primary issue is that this system of thought is taught to children. It's almost like racism. They hear their parents saying these things and perceive them as normal or acceptable. They see other adults as well and it allows it to happen without challenge. It's really quite frightening to me.
I'm sorry, how exactly have I been hypocritical? If you'll notice, I have no belief system.
