| happydolphin said: Some of you believe to have found the answer to the ever-itching riddle, how can we be masters of our actions if God already knows. The good news is, I believe I have found it. Most of us, when looking for the answer to this age-old question, build it on one assumption: that if God knows our choices, then they are pre-determined because he knows the reasons why we made the choices. That assumption could not be further from the truth. If we truly have free-will, then there is absolutely no pre-defined pattern as to why we chose this or that path in our lives. Your mind will be blown, but God's omniscience does not require logic: He is omniscient. For every choice we have availble to make in our lives, in the infinity of choices we make in our lives, we have an infinity of possible options. For that 360 degress of choice freedom, we can choose any path. yet God knows the final path. He does not need to know how or what led us to that choice, because there is no set path, he just knows regardless if there is absolutely no way to trace our choices one to the other along the path, because he is God and omniscient. He just knows. This makes perfect sense when you bring it all into its cosmic picture. The devil would never had tempted Jesus if he knew that Jesus would not falter. He would never have mocked Jesus if he knew that Jesus would end up crushing his head on the cross. The devil simply did not know. He may have insight on the reasons why you may make a choice or another, but ultimately there is no set path and since he is not all-knowing, he simply doesn't know. Put that in your pipe, and smoke it. Enjoy your pipe because I have more revelations I had yesterday that I will share. |
Basically, the only argument I see here is that God defies logic so there is no point in making sense of the issue. Okay, fair enough. Doesn't make it true, but how can one argue with logic against an argument that's based on the principal of logic not applying to God's omniscience?
But you then try to make sense of it by saying that he doesn't need to know how or what led us to the choice we make while in the very same sentence stating that he is omniscient. That, in itself, is a contradiction. You can't be omniscient only for the end product of our choices but not the choices themselves. Omniscient means all knowing, not knowing of just a certain part but not why it happened. Logic or not, you are using the word wrong if you define it as anythiing else than ALL KNOWING.
If I were you, I would have stopped at the argument that God defies logic. Sure it doesn't have any proof and can't be explained, but if that premise were you're argument, debating it with logic would be pretty senseless.
