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Calmador on 14 August 2013
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Seece said:
Calmador said:
Seece said:
Calmador said:
TheDarkShape said:
Two virgins waiting for marriage to have sex sounds like the most uncomfortable, messy wedding night imaginable.

Its been happening for most of human history... I think we'll be fine. What's wrong with self-control? What's better?

Nothing is wrong with self control, it's just not necessery here.

Hot wedding night sex > messy crappy amature wedding night sex.

I'd prefer my wife, not being manhandled by other men... before my wedding night. I have a life time to have hot sex with my fiture wife... it doesn't have to be perfect in the context pleasure but its better that it be perfect in the context of honor and morality. 

Righteousness (both husband and wife pure until wedding night) > Pleasure alone

Its necessary because its an immoral thing.

And when/if you get divorced you're gonna seek out another virgin? Good luck with that.

'Righteousnes' and denying yourself perfectly morale pleasure is all in the head, you've merely convinced yourself it's the right thing.

It's all very silly to allow your life to be dictated like that.

There is nothing immoral about it btw, as long as what you do doesn't hurt another living thing, it's fine.

There are actually a lot of girls that are staying celibate for marriage. So, no luck needed. However, I want to stress that virginity is an ideal point of purity... the thought is what counts the most which means that people who are not virgins and are saving sex for marriage anyways is a Godly thing.

No... LOL! ... Its anything but ME convincing myself. That made me smile/laugh. If anything it was God and his teachings that did the convincing.

You mean to choose to have the ideals of not looking at women as sex objects, always tell the truth, never steal... never murder, be hard-working, be concious of other people... That's silly? Then in that case... call me the king of the silly people. lol

It hurts God. It hurts yourself. And things that don't hurt people doesn't mean its not immoral. For example.... Bob steals something.. but nobody knows it was stolen... nobody is hurt... in your logic.. Bob didn't do anything wrong. So, hurt or pain is not a direct factor of immoral acts but instead a correlational consequence of immoral acts. 

I'll leave it at that... God Bless



All gaming systems, consoles/PC, have thier perks... why fight over preferences? I like Coke and you like Pepsi, that's it, let's not fight over which toy we like best cause that's what they are. Is someone's preference in a toy important or is the relationship between you and your neighbor more important? Answer is obvious, but THE most important thing is your relationship with God almighty. God Bless you in Jesus's name.

I can communicate without talking... I can send a loved one money without actually sending money... and I can commit theft without the product disappearing, the point of theft is the point of theft not one of it's possible symptoms which is the product dissappearing. The thief wants to gain something without paying for it, that's the point of theft, the thief doesn't have to care or anybody else has to care if the product dissappears. The product dissappearing is just a possible symptom of theft. Gifts are sacrfices, in order to give a gift, it has to be a genuine sacrfice/gift, meaning a copy of the game isn't still in your PC. Piracy is theft and/or being a culprit of theft.