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the-pi-guy said:
silentdj151 said:


Spotify/Netflix/Steam

All companies that are moving in the right direction giving consumers what they want and guess they all have DRM.

Problem is that Xb1 did not point the benefits of going digital in a effective way...

Sony capitalized with there marketing after E3...

XB1 took a big hit management forced to give in...

Eventually consoles next generation maybe even this generation will go all digital I will not mind...DRM or not 

Not many people have a problem with digital DRM, that's not what the "180" was about.  It was about the removal of DRM for physical media.  I can almost  guarantee that Xbox One will have DRM for downloaded titles, so will PS4.  Just like PS3.  A huge advantage with physical media over digital is the ability to give your friends the game to borrow or sell it without restrictions.  I don't know all of the things that MS was going to do, but from the sounds of it, effectively Physical == Digital for Xbox One.  The online check in was the big point for a lot of people also.  Steam doesn't have that, well as far as I'm aware.  Netflix is an odd point...  Netflix is only used for streaming and DVD rentals.  DVDs all have their DRM, but they don't have any DRM that would stop me from going to a friend's house and playing the DVD in their DVD player.  

I've never used spotify though.  

Next Generation of consoles will go all digital if you want, but at this point it's optional.  Every game released physically will also be released digitally.  Already confirmed for PS4, Xbox One, PS Vita, (I believe 3DS might also be pushing for this, but I don't think they have as much as the other 3.) 

Once again...

HUH?

Steam took a product pc games that were traditionally sold on physical media cd/dvd

and made it digital with DRM...offering lower prices then the physical copy...now everyone sells pc games via digital with some sort of drm

if your counter argument is going to be...pc games were only licenses to play the game in the first place...the same can be said about console games all you do is buy a license to play the game you never acutually own it.

However, you can trade in your physical console game copy to ebgames for below market value or resell it yourself on amazon...ebay...craigslist for market rate.

So, I don't care about reselling console games ussually the trade in value is nothing or it takes to much time and effort to resell at market value...basically diminishing returns...

I'm not sure I get your argument or point