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Figgycal said:
danasider said:
This is a sales site, just look at the numbers instead of focusing on hating a guy for stating the obvious. Whether he has a bad track record or not doesn't affect the topic at hand. Vita isn't going to sell well even if Sony supports it for another decade, and something as trivial as remote play definitely won't do crap for it. Sad but true (even Pachter admitted to liking the device and calling it slick, but liking a product or disliking Pachter won't change the sales trajectory of the vita).

I just disagree with everything Pachter says- I don't even own a Vita. I'm not saying he's always wrong but it's a safer bet to assume the opposite of what he says is true or that he just made a bad guess.


I get that, but what I am saying is that Pachter may be correct on this one thing (even though he has been correct on a few other things like PS4 pricing/Microsoft going back on DRM), but you're keeping your head in the sand to refute what he says just because it's him.  But if you look at the data so far, you'd see that he is only stating the obvious.

The PSP, a handheld from last generation that came in second place,  is tracking ahead of Vita worldwide.  The Vita has less than 15% marketshare of this generation of handhelds!  Handheld sales overall are down, because of the proliferation of the smart phone.  CoD Vita (as shitty as it was, it's still a huge brand) couldn't sell game or console units, because people aren't interested in playing a moblile PS.  These are the things you should be looking at among others when making a stand on the OP, not stating the opposite of what you and many others believe solely for the sake of disagreeing with someone who typically makes outlandish statements.

It's like disagreeing with him for saying the sky is blue just because he said the Wii was doomed.  Sure he was dead wrong about the latter, but that doesn't change that he is correct about the former.  For an average of 12 hours each day, he's right!  You and everyone else disagreeing for disagreement's sake might as well be denying the sky is blue.

And I am not saying Vita being dead in the water is as true as the sky being blue.  Nothing is set in stone when it comes to consoles, and Sony may end up making its money over a (very) long life cycle and/or if they pricecut and push it with bundles, software support, etc.  So far, all that is speculation just like saying the Vita is dead.  My sky scenario was simply illustrating that posing the argument (that something is not true simply because a person claims it to be true) while disregarding the data surrounding that actual premise is plain bad logic.  It's counterintuitive on a website that is about dissemination of sales data.  If you believe the PS Vita will make a comeback, I'd prefer to read well-articulated data or precedent based statements than diving into a sea of hate posts on a guy for stating what appears to be obvious.  Your opinion is still valid because opinions are subjective, but the logic used to arrive at the opinion isn't sound.

No offense or vitriol meant by me, but that's just my perception of all these similar posts that do nothing to intelligently argue the OP.