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the-pi-guy said:
landguy1 said:
Vision? I doubt that any of the 3 have a vision beyond what $$$ they return to their shareholders. It's funny that most of you think Sony gives a shit about you. Sony made a particular business decision to not include the PSeye to get their price down to $399. It's obvious by the design of their controller, that it was intended to be standard equipment. They made a smart decision to go for the throat with M$ and drop the eye and their price to grab the early adopters(core gamers). Based on the many comments from the developers, it is obvious that they were intending to be at 4gb ram too. It's always easier to announce the tech specs/price of your system after the competition does. Gives you a chance to change your mind and make it look like that you didn't "180". For most of the core gamers who can only buy their games on disc and can afford only one system and seemingly don't connect their system to the internet, then the PS4 is revolutionary. If you wanted a system that has an ability to be both a basic game system and something else, then you get a XBone. No one can argue that with most of the changes that M$ has made, their system can do what the 360/PS3/PS4 can do, but much more. If you don't want the "more", then get a 360/PS4/PS3.

I don't think that anyone thinks that Sony cares about them.  Why would they?  They are a large corporation, it makes as much sense as thinking the president cares about me.  The thing is though, that Sony had a huge opportunity to allow this DRM thing while MS was.  They both would've been affected, but not as much as MS was.  Sony is very concerned about piracy protection, but not so much used game protection.  

While I don't disagree with you about the camera, the RAM thing was supposedly something brought by developers.  Something like "if you don't have 8 GB ram", at one point it wasn't really feasible to have 8 GB RAM, and most people were already under the impression that the 4 GB GDDR5 RAM > 8 GB DDR3 RAM due to the huge speed advantages.  They announced 8 GB about 3 months earlier than MS did as well.  The big problem with the internet thing is that it isn't super reliable.  My internet was out for 5 days just a few weeks ago.  That would mean 4 days w/o playing Xbox One if it did come.  That would really suck since it was one of the few things I was able to do.  

Yeah, even though it is unusual for me to have no internet, it does have certain times during the day where i can't even log into Live or even use Netflix through my apple tv.  Not having internet for 5 days would really suck. 

I do think that had Sony done the DRM thing(for first party - they admit that 3rd party developers can do whatever they want), both Sony and M$ both would have done just as well this generation.  The only one that would have suffered is the consumer that really cares about it(small but vocal group).  One thing about core gamers/VGchartz posters is  that they seem to think that the average consumer really cares about DRM.  Most consumers that have an ios device or any smartphone/tablet is already used to DRM.  They don't hold a grudge against it, they don't even think about it.  If M$ wasn't trying to position the XBone as an entertainment device, they would have elimanted the disc drive alltogther.