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happydolphin said:
dsgrue3 said:
Predeterminism doesn't imply influence. It simply implies knowledge.

Thus you have defeated your own argument.

He knows, not because he could predict it, but because he was there when it happened, before it happened.

Thus nothing is defeated. You'd have to read my other posts where I mentioned this more than once.

There is no predeterminism in the bible, he just knows and we have free will to choose, and we will all be without excuse (that's in the bible).

It also says (Jesus) "Before Abraham was, I am". In other words, he was there before it all began.

Predeterminism isn't about prediction, it's about knowledge. It's a certainty given a certain set of events. 

Now you're saying there isn't predeterminism, but that's exactly what foreknowledge is. 

So either you're saying he isn't omniscient, or we don't have free will. You need to pick a side; you seem to misunderstand that there are logical contradictions between these abstractions.