Mr Khan said:
-CraZed- said:
Mr Khan said:
Because we're only talking about the essentials of life as far as income goes. In the welfare state I would advocate, the poorest would get full nutrition, healthcare, shelter, education, and the minimum in clothing, but these are not really the ingredients for a fulfilling life on the whole. If you want a house, a good car, the leisure to watch movies or read books or surf the internet or video games or what have you, you still have to work.
Some people aren't going to work, and are going to exercise poor judgment and yet expect someone to cover for their mistakes, but even they deserve the basics, but how many people are going to be satisfied with the basics? Wealth and success are their own incentives beyond mere survival.
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The problem with your theory is it is completely false and assumes that those in charge of the distribution are altruistic and benevolent. We know this is patently false. The welfare state can only be paid for by plunder. The plunder of those who seek to be able to afford things like video games, a good car leisure time etc. etc. In fact leisure time is even harder to come by when you do actually work. The welfare state is the antihesis to freedom and liberty. It indentures one group to another with NO origin of debt. Save for some mythical Social Contract that apparently we all sign at birth if we are not aborted within that welfare sate. Besides what happens when the takers out number the givers?
Welfare is the worst form of slavery and has done nothing but destroy the lives of those unfortunate enough to have to rely on it. Look at the destruction of the Back family it has wrought. Welfare is a way to garner power through the inevitable voting blocks formed by those who have come to rely on the government dole. Promise the world, deliver misery and the people will come crawling back for more. It also pits the haves against the supposed have nots. It robs people of the sense of dignity and accomplishment of earning something. It encourages envy on all sides. Don't believe me? Look around. Doe s our society not seem even more divided these days as our welfare state has grown even larger?
Not to mention the frivolous misuse of welafre benefits to purchase things like video games and luxury items those very funds were never meant to purchase. Well then you say we need laws to prevent that. We sure do but then what has happened to ours and your freedom to live as you like? And who is to say these new laws meant to prevent welfare recipients from buying these things can even be enforced. Ever seen what happens with food stamp fraud? Even EBT cards can't stop it.
If you wish to know why I believe I know what I am talking about? It's because I grew up on welfare and I am one of the lucky and fortunate people who actually got away from the cycle of poverty induced by the welfare state. The county I lived in San Bernardino recently went bankrupt and not just in money... It was one of those areas of the country where a large percentage of the population were receiving welfare benefits.
My mother and both of my brothers are still living there with dead end jobs (when they can get one) absentee from their children (so their baby momma's can collect those checks and food stamps) and are either using drugs or drinking heavily. Why? because they never knew any better. Because the environment of the welfare state sucked them in and stole their drive and their sense of self worth.... How can you feel worthy of something when you never earn it?
Sorry bud but you are just wrong, wrong, wrong.
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Riddle me this: could you have gotten out of the cycle of poverty if you had not had welfare support? If you had been homeless and starving and sick, could you have achieved what you have?
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By leaving home at 16 and working my ever loving butt off. By leaving behind the place from where I came, cutting ties with those from where I came and dedicating myself to the famliy I have made. I lived in a Salvation Army shelter while I was in Junior High school because my parents couldn't keep a place over our heads. I remember my school bus stop was within sight of the shelter so I would walk around the block the long way so the other kids wouldn't see where I came from. Starvation is NOT a problem in this country even for the homeless. Food banks, and cheap staples are abundant why do you think obesity is so prevelant amongst the poor? Also remember, I am the exception out of 4 other family mambers. That is the norm where I am from and in many places where welfare is the primary source of income.
And I never said I was sick... I'm not Tiny effing Tim I'ma grown ass man who pulled himself up by his boot straps and by the grace of God I made myself into a productive member of society (even if I did make some mistakes along the way.)
