Argument from nonbelief

[ninetailschris]

Jay520 said:

ninetailschris said:

3. Non-resistantly isn't a word from any dictionary I read. So, I will use non-resistant instead. Nonresistant: Not resistant . So, I assume the argument is that there shouldn't be anyone that unaware that weren't influenced? Correct me if I am wrong because the double negative is making the sentence confusing a bit(referring to "non-resistantly unaware".)

From Dr Justin Barrett, a senior researcher at the University of Oxford's Centre for Anthropology and Mind.

""The preponderance of scientific evidence for the past 10 years or so has shown that a lot more seems to be built into the natural development of children's minds than we once thought, including a predisposition to see the natural world as designed and purposeful and that some kind of intelligent being is behind that purpose," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

"If we threw a handful on an island and they raised themselves I think they would believe in God."

More from the Dr. Barrett,

"Dr Barrett claimed anthropologists have found that in some cultures children believe in God even when religious teachings are withheld from them.

"Children's normally and naturally developing minds make them prone to believe in divine creation and intelligent design. In contrast, evolution is

unnatural for human minds; relatively difficult to believe."

 

Article for full read. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/3512686/Children-are-born-believers-in-God-academic-claims.html

But as you can see the argument falls flat from here.
But I like to add the God of the bible  says it is possible that everyone can come into a personal relationship with him not that everyone will sadly.
If someone rejects God's it's part of there free-will to do that if they wish.

Thank you!

Let's stay on point 3 since that's the first point you disagree with.

Non-resistant nonbelief is nonbelief through no fault of the nonbeliever.

Not sure how your post proves anything. You've just proven that some people have a natural tendency to believe in God (even if illogical). Are you making the argument that because some people are predisposed to believe in God, that means all people are? What about the people born into cultures where most people don't believe in God? Or we could take it a step further and talk about the children born into families that strongly believe that no God exists? Are you willing to argue that these children's natural curiousity is stronger than their natural urge to accept societal norms? 

Clearly some people don't believe in God through no fault of their own.

And if we're talking about the Christian God, then you really have no grounds here. Since even if we assume that every person does have these predispositions, many people would follow the wrong religion due to their culture's belief, through no fault of their own.

Hello, how are Jay?

"Non-resistant nonbelief is nonbelief through no fault of the nonbeliever."

Ok, I understand the argument.

"Not sure how your post proves anything. You've just proven that some people have a natural tendency to believe in God (even if illogical). Are you making the argument that because some people are predisposed to believe in God, that means all people are? What about the people born into cultures where most people don't believe in God? Or we could take it a step further and talk about the children born into families that strongly believe that no God exists? Are you willing to argue that these children's natural curiousity is stronger than their natural urge to accept societal norms? "

What I was proving was that people are not born resistanting God. That was all. I thought that was the argument I needed to prove but I understand the official argument now. If the argument is non-belief through no fault of the nonbeliever. In the bible it says that not all of us will be able to come into personal relationship on earth,that those of us that are not given the chance will be judge differently(Romans 1-2). We will judge by morals/merits that were naturally put on us by God. Therefor everyone has a chance to have a relationship with God. To explain further, if you come to know God you will have a direct personal relationship with God at the moment till forever. But the person who never knew God  or  never given a fair chance,will be judge on merits of basic morality/merits(based on God's scale). When he or she dies than they can than come to have personal relationship with God if deemed so.The difference is one being on earth the other when they are dead. There is more to this with Jesus but I don't want to write a essay on this. Justvto add people who sick are said to be excused like diseases that make you go mad because it is no fault on the party at hand. I believe this answers your question. Not everyone will have a personal relationship just like not everyone will be with Jesus. They will judged by the merits God deems righteous.

"Clearly some people don't believe in God through no fault of their own.

And if we're talking about the Christian God, then you really have no grounds here. Since even if we assume that every person does have these predispositions, many people would follow the wrong religion due to their culture's belief, through no fault of their own."

My last paragraph handled this. See nothing left to add.

Have a good day and thank you!