Screamapillar said:
Yeah but in the UK, you guys have notoriously horrible healthcare, same with all socialized health systems. Longer times to see an actual doctor, meaning when you do actually get to see one, it might be too late to do anything about it. Doctors get paid less, therefore there are fewer people who want to become doctors, and thus fewer specialists, hence why so many people fly to the United States and a select few other countries to see specialists, i.e. the best in the world.
The problem is that we already all "chip in some money", it's called Medicare and Medicaid. Both of which are terrible systems. Doctors hate them, there's too much backlog, bureaucracy, and it's so wasteful that many Doctors either don't accept them or they retire early just so that they don't have to deal with them. To the detriment of the people you claim should be helped.
So your forceful way of dealing with all of this is never going to work. Europe is bankrupt, they have nothing but pyramided debt. They have low birth rates among middle and high income people, many of which are even below the replacement rate. Your continent is literally dying, and as we're already seeing in France and elsewhere, eventually your entire society is going to be overrun with Muslims. Muslims, once there are enough of them to be in power in Europe, are not going to support your socialized systems, and they're not going to support women's rights or a welfare state. So, you talk about me "being backward", well, look in the mirror. Also, look at the demographics in France. I would prefer that that not happen here in the US.
Not to mention that you cannot force someone to be charitable. If we had a healthy economy, and there were actual jobs in the US, we wouldn't even be having this conversation, because there wouldn't be so many people who can't afford health insurance. So no matter how hard you try, or how much you want it, you cannot legislate poor people into prosperity. It doesn't work. It has never worked, ever. All of these socialized programs that progressives and conservaties love to throw around "energy independence", "education", "food stamps", the common theme you hear is that "Well, if we just increased funding, this would all be solved." The problem is, every time funding is increased, it makes the problem even worse than it was before.
The best way to handle these types of problems, and it's in line with the original intent of the United States, is to give people as much freedom as possible. I don't think the tyranny of the government being the central provider of services is going to turn out well. Quite the opposite, in fact.
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