the-pi-guy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
wilco said:
Thats not really the point I'm making...All I am saying is that TLOU's success does not prove that female protagonists sell. Ellie is not the main character and ND even stated that she is not playable. If the fact that she is playable was a selling point then they would have put that in the marketing ahead of time.
This is not to say that gamers won't buy a game with a female protagonist, just that TLOU is not a great example. At the end of the day the Last of Us is still the same Grizzled Old Man/Innocent little girl trope we've seen before.
To answer your original question. I do not see Ellie being a lead character. I loved TLOU and I loved the character of Ellie but she only works in the context of the Joel story. In her current state shes just a tool and not a lead character, maybe her character could mature and become a viable lead in the future but the problem with that is TLOU does NOT need a sequel. This is one case where a sequel really can ruin the original.
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How many games are doing what the Last of Us have done in the way in which it was done?
There are two main characters in the game and one goes missing for quite a while but a certain someone has to learn to survive on her own for quite a bit in the game to the point to where you forget about Joel. Joels role in the game is to keep her safe but the game begs for you to question...how long can he save her before he kicks the bucket? The way he protects the girl from using weapons until he realizes shes a good shot and shes a wild striker at that. When she becomes a woman, shes going to be a hell cat after how joel raised her. Instead of being a brat he's turning her into a survivalist, showing her hot to shoot, create weapons, make food, etc. The list goes on and on. Its obvious shes being prepped to be a lead character. She doesnt need to be now.
Ellie as a character 1/4 of the way through kills on her own. She needs Joel at this point for back up and emotional father issues, but how long will Joel survive? This guy neary died completely and shes kept him alive just long enough. This girl is going to become something special, just watch. Yes,
As for the sequel, if you dont believe TLOU doesn't need a sequel you must've forgotten the ending was rather anti-climatic and if you've ever watched a series on HBO or any other channel they seem to have learned the lesson of how to keep the viewer hooked. They never finished the story and never found a group of people who could make an anti-virus from her blood without killing her. There is still some way to go.. Her purpose has not been met. Shes has more story and a far bigger purpose than you are willing to admit.
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A lot of people loved the ending because it was ambiguous. If they decide not to do another story with Joel and/or Ellie, I'm fine with that and a lot of people are actually asking for that. For some people the best part of the ending was that it was ambiguous. They didn't give you all the answers, it was something you had to piece together, something that you had to build on yourself.
Many people seem to dislike the ending because it felt incomplete to them, but I think that it was one of the strong suits of the story. It wasn't just "I'm done with this game now, no more." It put me in a place where during the credits, I started to think about it. I've never thought about a story after it was finished before, either because they never impacted me or because they were already explained.
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Yup, the ending was absolutely perfect just the way it is. I was actually skeptical of TLOU because I had played The Walking Dead Telltale Game and I really enjoyed that. TLOU looked like more of the same but it actually suprised me quite a bit. As much as I enjoyed TWD, that game was very emotionally manipulative. TLOU could have easily gone the same route but in the end they went for something way more chilling and unexpected. The Ellie character is great but her becoming a lead in a sequel would ruin the original for me.
If TLOU proved anything it proved that its possible to do an ambiguous ending that is still satisfying. An example of a really bad ambiguos ending would be the Sopranos series finale, that was just lazy. TLOU on the other hand has an ambigous ending that works perfectly.
