JoeTheBro said:
DirtyP2002 said:
JoeTheBro said:
DirtyP2002 said:
VGC users know more than Carmack then!
The technical gap will be the smallest ever.
PS360 in comparison have WAY more differences than Xbox One and PS4 will have.
Last gen, there were discussions about "teh cell", something nobody had a clue about. Or the RAM 512MB vs 256MB + 256MB, or BluRay vs DVD9... The differences we are talking about now are tiny in comparison.
RAM is the same (yeah one is faster... SHOCKER)
CPU is the same
GPU is slightly different (Don't even try to make a big deal out of it)
input media is exactly the same
cloud computing (One supports it for certain games, the other one does not)
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Please don't spread BS if you don't know what you are talking about.
You are right about PS360 having more component differences, but what does that have to do with a difference in power? That's like saying a steam powered car and an electric car have almost the same top speed, therefor two gas cars must have the exact same top speed.
Luckily for us the two systems being so similar makes it pretty straight forward to see how large the gap is and which system is stronger. With previous gens each system had its strengths and weaknesses. PS3 had a super powerful CPU but it was a bitch to tap that performance. On top of that it had split RAM. The 360 had a great GPU and a single pool of RAM but its CPU had nothing on the theoretical power of the CELL. Each system had its relative strengths and weaknesses.
With Xbox One vs PS4 there is none of that. Same CPUs, same GPU architectures, same single pools of RAM, and a lot of the same part manufacturers. The only difference that isn't a black and white number is DDR3 + ESRAM vs GDDR5. This is the ONLY* power difference that is even close to being debatable. Everything else is PS4 is better, PS4 is better, PS4 is the same, PS4 is better**...
Of course there is the debate on how much better the PS4 will be in real world examples, but it will be bigger than the PS360 difference I can guarantee you that. If you care for some bet about this, just PM me. We can discuss specifics.
*Xbox One is believed to have a less taxing audio chip than PS4. It's also debatable yet most people ignore it since its effects on system performance are minimal.
**Xbox One has more transistors and a higher GPU clock than PS4, but those numbers are meaningless on their own.
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to use this way to descirbe it:
Last gen, we had two cars with
different engine (CPU)
different tires (Input Media)
different wheel drive (GPU)
different gear drive (RAM)
and they had more or less the same top speed.
Now we have two cars with
same engine (CPU)
same tires (BluRay)
different wheel drive (GPU)
same gear drive (RAM)
and somehow we expect totally different results.
Anyway, todays games require bigger and better specs than ever before and to actually see a real difference the hardware-jump needs to be massive and not just 24%. Especially when developer make games to run on both systems.
My prediction is that the multiplat games on both systems will be almost identical this gen. Sure, the pixel counters will find something, but this won't matter overall.
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No you are still very off.
Last gen
Battery at 12V verse steam at 260 degrees
Electric motor vs piston
Recharge vs refill
Which car is better? Pretty hard to tell until both are on the track racing. Could have identical performance, or could be laps apart.
This gen
12 cylinder vs 18 cylinder
13100 horsepower vs 18400 horsepower
5 Liter gas tank vs 6 Liter gas tank
Unlike previous gens these things are directly comparable! Just looking at my hypothetical cars with hilarious specs the difference is much more apparent than you act.
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we should only talk in metaphors from this point on. 
The next gen games (2-3 years from now) will be very demanding. Heck Bioshock Infinite for PC for example recommends a system with 4 GB Memory and a HD Radeon 6950 already and in 3 years you will see games that will require much more than that. (I know PC specs vs console specs bla)
The technical gaps between the systems get bigger with every gen (Xbox One has 16 times the amount of ram of the Xbox 360 and the CPU is abot 6 times better, the GPU is 6 times better etc.) but the jump in visuals won't be as impressive as these number suggest, because we are getting to a point where a visual upgrade is very hard to achieve. And 24% difference are not enough to make games look significantly better.
Metaphor (inspired by your avatar):
It is like comparing Bill Gates wealth (PS4) to Warren Buffets wealth (Xbox One). Sure Bill Gates has 20 billion USD more than Buffet, but there is not much on earth that Warren Buffet could not afford, but Bill Gates can.
