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greenmedic88 on 05 August 2013
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Zappykins said:

The PS3 doesn't. If you own one, you should already know this. Many of the games require installs, but it's very rare when those reach, much less exceed 1GB. Typically, installs, when required, are much smaller. 

PS3 games purchased through the PSN Store and installed via DD are the only expections, which is a given. 

I already read the reports that XB1 game discs are only installers and that everything must be on the HDD. Unconfirmed, but if so and space becomes an issue due to 10GB + game installs, either MS has an answer for those who plan on having more than 40 games installed or I can put off a purchase of one until they do.

Feel free to post the link confirming that the PS4 is using the same full game install set up as the XB1. That's the first time I've heard this. 

You confirm it in your own text that the PS3 games must be installed.  You seem to want to dismiss it, but that doesn't make it untrue.  This is because the Blu-ray data transfer is slower than a good DVD transfer rate when the PS3 was made. 

Sony already confirmed you can play once a certain level of the game is installed.  Microsoft as also confirmed you can play the game as it is installing as well.  This is a good thing for developers.  If Sony lets you run games from the Disk without any install, they they would hamper the PS4's abilities.

The Xbox 360 was help back because developers had to insure that all games could be run without a hard drive.  (Grand Theft Auto V being the first game to get around this restriction (perhaps cause the generation is over? - but you can just pop in a flash drive.)

I am not follow why do you think it's a bad thing to run off a hard dive?  Is it just running out of hard drive space?

The only PS3 games that require a full install are the ones you buy DD from the PSN Store. I'm not talking about installing files, game engines, frequently used resources, etc. We're talking about the entire game. And apparently you're not for what? The sake of winning an internet argument?

I have over 70 BD games sitting on my shelves. If every one of those games required a full game install they wouldn't all fit on a 500GB HDD. 

I'm not going down the whole list but:

Soul Calibur V = 58 MB

The Last of Us = 74 MB

Metal Gear Solid HD Collection = 217 MB

Catherine = 2306 MB

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune = 13 MB

Killzone 2 = 90 MB

Uncharted 3 = 101 MB

 

Getting the point? With most of these games, I could install hundreds and still have plenty of space. 

 

You're saying every PS4 game is going to look something like the following with full installs for everything:

Infamous = 15000 MB

Killzone = 20000 MB

 

Show me where this info is coming from.