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bananaking21 on 03 August 2013
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Zero999 said:
bananaking21 said:

1- it is relevant, but your hurt feelings make you say otherwise.

2- i dont see an xbox or PS4 version announced, and even if they did it would be to those who are upgrading to those consoles, playstation and xbox fans who buy GTA and bought the previous ones.

3- the number of WiiU solds is shit, why bother with it then if even if having a high attach rate means shit sales? you just shot yourself in the foot there.

4- then you are saying we should base how we should predict sales on the games such as CoD and other FPS, then lets do that. CoD sold 190K...... hmmm what other FPS games are there? none, so it just managed 190K without competition, amazing. why would GTA sales be any better?

5- well you just contradicting yourself. they say it takes 1M to port any game which is the case of ubisoft games, not other games. Rockstar games are much bigger in scale. anyways, you say 200K would make a profit? has any ubisoft game that was ported reached 200K? didnt ubisoft themselfs say they were dissapointed with the WiiU. how do you know 200K would easily make a profit? are you a developer?

https://www.developersaccomplice.co.uk/ubisoft-confirms-wii-u-disappointment/

6- it is relevant, saying that a small console base has nothing to do with the sales of a console is one of the most ignorant things i ever heard

so all in all you just blindly support nintendo and come up with an argument that states a company should support it when all the logical evidence show that it would be a stupid idea to port the game to the console

1- past means nothing. many companies had no histoyry with xbox before the 360. it is irrelevant, period.

2- you shouldn't speak for others when you say gta fans are not on nintendo systems.

3- ps4 and xone have 0 install base so by this logic nothing would ever release on a new console. 190k is not "shit" on a 3M installed base ,especially when only 100k would be enough to profit.

4- gta sales would be better because it's a big title and wii u's installed base will be quite higher than last year and keep growing along the holidays. your excuse for an argument has no ground.

5- let me draw for you genius: 1M to port = profiting at 100k. even if gta5 size would raize the porting costs I still doubt it would need more than 2M and thus, profit at 200k. I know it would profit thanks to simple math: profit per unit sold - cost.

6- your first statement: "extremely bad WiiU sales" that is not a reason not to release the game on it, especially with every evidence pointing to the sales picking up. your second statement: "saying that a small console base has nothing to do with the sales of a console is one of the most ignorant things i ever heard" what? i think you meant GAME sales, because certainly the BASE has nothing to do with HARDWARE sales.

finally: "when all the logical evidence show that it would be a stupid idea to port the game to the console"  All logical evidence says rockstar will profit with the game being on wii u, as well as establishing the franchise there. But all I see is a hater who cares more about games that won't be on others system than the ones coming to his own.

1- the xbox platform already stablished its self as a strong console in america and a strong console mature tittles with halo. it proved it can sell shit loads of copies of a popular franchise. also, it aimed for the same demographic that rockstar aim for, nintendo does not. another thing is that GTA released 2 years late on xbox, are you saying rockstar should do the same with the WiiU? since you are comparing the platforms together you are suggesting they use the same strategy.

2-they arent, they are on PS3-360. how do i know? well how can you be a fan of a game and noy buy it? because if your on nintendo platform you havent played GTA on it due to the game NOT BEING ON NINTENDO BEFORE (with the exception of one spin off tittle, no MAIN tittle has EVER been on nintendo)

3- releasing on PS4 and Xbox one will give an additional push to the game due to more marketing, really think of it, if they announce it will be coming to PS4/X1 everything will think about how the game will look, how awesome it will look due to next gen hardware. yes its about graphics and they will use it for marketing. but another point i said a billion times already, i still dont see them fucking announcing it for the PS4/X1 yet

4- quiet higher? what are you talking about? how much did they ship last quarter? 160k, the quarter before it? 390k. thats 550K the game is releasing in a month if you havent noticed. so no, it isnt quit higher than it was last year. 

5- your post makes no sense what so ever, even if it would cost just 1M to break even the math suggests it would need around 370k to do so. 

http://trueslant.com/tassi/files/2010/05/game-chart.jpg

here, look at that chart and do the math. 1M / 27 is 37037 so where is your simple math logic now?

6- what are these evidence? is it that extremely low shipments of WiiU last quarter? the horrific WiiU NPD numbers month after month? or the retail gaint asda no longer stocking WiiU? really what are you evidence? or do you mean your personal hope that the sales will increase dramatically?

you havent said one logical post yet, you are just going around in circles, i really find no reason to debate with you when you are doing so