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Calmador said:
Seece said:
Calmador said:
TheDarkShape said:
Two virgins waiting for marriage to have sex sounds like the most uncomfortable, messy wedding night imaginable.

Its been happening for most of human history... I think we'll be fine. What's wrong with self-control? What's better?

Nothing is wrong with self control, it's just not necessery here.

Hot wedding night sex > messy crappy amature wedding night sex.

I'd prefer my wife, not being manhandled by other men... before my wedding night. I have a life time to have hot sex with my fiture wife... it doesn't have to be perfect in the context pleasure but its better that it be perfect in the context of honor and morality. 

Righteousness (both husband and wife pure until wedding night) > Pleasure alone

Its necessary because its an immoral thing.

And when/if you get divorced you're gonna seek out another virgin? Good luck with that.

'Righteousnes' and denying yourself perfectly morale pleasure is all in the head, you've merely convinced yourself it's the right thing.

It's all very silly to allow your life to be dictated like that.

There is nothing immoral about it btw, as long as what you do doesn't hurt another living thing, it's fine.