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thranx on 01 August 2013
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Mr Khan said:
Cubedramirez said:
Mr Khan said:

Yes, but if everyone is that much more productive at entry level work, they deserve to be further rewarded. Higher productivity should command higher wages, because that's what is both fair and expected.

That's entirely without context. The increase in productivity is a result of streamlined business operations which have been studied over decades to reduce the waste of time and energy needed to complete the duties of each employee. The skillset required to accomplish their duties has been greatly reduced. The skillset of an entry level fast food worker from the 1950's compared to one in 2013 has actually decreased considerably as well. So, if your argument that because increased productivity should be justification of a wage increase whereas the work as a unit has less marketable skills than one 70 years ago and in fact all the productivity gains are from a business process stand point. I wholeheartedly disagree. 

Plus, whenever there is a discussion of fairness or what someone deserves it is no longer a discussion on what is right and equitable. Anyone can justify anything under the sun under the false premise of fairness.

If there's higher productivity, there is more wealth to be shared, and that wealth should be shared decently evenly. The insane gaps between an entry-level worker and company CEO's are unconscionable, and undefendable.

McDonald's themselves demonstrated that their wages are indefensible, as they do not provide a living wage.


Mc D's managers make great money. Every person I have known to work at mc donalds has also recieved a raise after 6 months to a year. With that said, it entry level work. All raising the minimun wage does is hurt workers who are n't as good as others. By forcing everyone to paid so high, it becomes worthless to hire someone who cant work as fast or as well as others. I manage a pizza place, and there are workers I could keep on payroll if I could pay them less (min wage is 8.00 dollars here in California). As it is, if they aren't fast workers, and great with customers, I simply have to let them go and find a better worker. Usually for me I hire 2 at a time becuase I know 1 can''t hack it. Usually 16-23 year olds. But since we are forced to pay people the same wage, we are forced to get the same quality of work from all employees. And this is pretty basic work, no highschool diploma required. Just a good work ethic, which is severly lacking in many people for entry level jobs.