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Captain_Tom on 30 July 2013
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sales2099 said:
Captain_Tom said:
sales2099 said:
 

Total Xbox losses? Thought we were just referring to this gen as an example that profit means sustainability.Why don't we just throw in that PS3 burned through all PS2 profits and it is likely PS3 itself will never break even? EDIT: Yet still we see a PS4 coming out. So in essense this thread is just wrong.

Oh and 360 in itself is in full profit.

 

If the Xbox One bombs than it shows that two out of three Xbox generations were failures and the 360 only made a slight profit.  The Xbox division got lucky once and it is time to stop.

 

All I am saying is that if the Xbox One does terribly, the Xbox division has an awful track record with no signs of success.  That is not disputable (By people who live in reality).

Wouldn't call either Xbox generation a failure. Xbox did outsell Gamecube. But then again it didn't profit. 360 is almost at 80 million and in full profit. Would hardly call that a failure....seriously I can't imagine what you must be thinking to come up with that conclusion. 360 is now in full profit, and yet it has at least a few years left in it. So this will only widen.

With 360, the division in itself has at least a moderate track record. X1 will probably not sell as well as 360, but I have no doubt it will outsell the origional Xbox. Probably somewhere in the middle with profit in the end. This I would say is more likely, where as yours is just fishing for the worst case scenerio with a skewed view of what has allready past. That ain't reality.

The original Xbox created 5 Billion+ dollars of total  debt and bairly outsold the Gamecube (Which did horribly yet actually made a profit).

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=MZSqFet36PGZBM&tbnid=EkFRnSW-tn_RHM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thisisbigbrother.com%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D6227203&ei=2wD4UcesJIjI9QTX9ICYCw&bvm=bv.49967636,d.aWM&psig=AFQjCNFhm9jMLzXEL77qP3jrv-8bnP21kw&ust=1375294032308269

^Based on that chart I would guess the Xbox division is still at least a billion or two away from overall profit.  If they create a generation that makes a good amount of money then yeah it is worth staying the course.

However the OP asked what it would take for them to quit, and if they create another loss gen it is common sense to stop.  I never said they will!  I think they will do 40-60m and thus justify another go at it.  

Calm down, no need to go into full !!!XBOX DEFENSE MODE!!!.  I'm sure you are needed in another MS post...