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gum on 30 July 2013
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existenz2 said:
gum said:

I like how those guys seem to think that the VGC numbers aren't accurate enough for their brilliant analysis while they obviously don't get even the most simple things about sales-age. Simple concepts like comparative installed bases or killer apps seem for example over their comprehension each time they speak about the actual situation of the WiiU. Reading the amount of stupid hate this console is getting there and lack of any strong understanding of this market on that forum is pretty blattant at this point. I think these message boards have been incredibly overrated for way too long as most comments there, are now mediocre at best and often pure trolling as the moderation seems to be more and more inexistant.

 

What do you think?


I think a link to illustrate what you are referring to would help enormously.


A link? Well lol I think you could take any of the recent Media Create thread or all the doom and gloom topics about the WiiU and it will fit perfectly. In each of those you can find dozens at least of posts which are just terrible with nobody who seem to disagree. I have explained in a thread why the WiiU is certainly not in the awful position some people seem to think :

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=158079&page=1#

And I can tell there is probably noone in NeoGAF that gets any of those simple points. Instead you've got many posts like this one which are only blatant trolling:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73543023&postcount=215

And this is where this is really funny: those guys think the VGC chartz numbers are not accurate enough but their analysis are extremely simplistic: for them if a console sells as much as the GC or the Vita for example it can only mean that it will have the same fate no matter if its situation in terms of installed base relative to its competitors or the actual killer apps to come to this system is totally different. These guys can talk all day to know if a game will sell 240K or 245k but still are obviously unable to know if a console will sell much more than 20 Million even if that's a given.

I could say : "wait and see and if in a year the WiiU is still selling badly and PS4/X1 are already outselling it by a lot then I must be wrong and I'm a probably the one that doesn't get anything about this market not NeoGAF as a whole". But I wo'nt even do that because it would be like saying during the night: "let's see if tomorrow the sea which appears to be black right now will be blue again tomorrow". I'm not here talking about some very complicated concept that need to be proven, no, I'm talking about some of the most simple and proven laws in video games sales-age: that multi million selling games of course are going to drastically change the sales of a console and of course starting this generation with a significantly better installed base instead of a worse like the GC, Xbox or Vita than its competitors is a huge advantage for this console. Those concepts are the most simple ones, the most undisputed ones than you can get and still these guys which are so confident of their theories don't even get that. This, clearly, is a joke.