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happydolphin said:
ultima said:
happydolphin said:
ultima said:

Read the words. I went back and looked at different translations. They all unambiguously agree (through wording) that it's a chain of sons to fathers. There is absolutely no mention of Mary in Luke's passage. Having read the bible, I also noticed that the females are never chronicled. So why would Mary all of a sudden become important in a culture like that?

Read bold. (Edit: sorry, I missed bolding the last item, important in answering your question)

At italicized: read my bold.

Now you're starting to piss me right off. There is no mention of Mary, but she is suddenly very important in this context because:

1) She gave birth to a child as a virgin. That becomes extremely important in giving lineage.

2) She is part of a non-cursed lineage (as I had bolded), of which the messiah had to descend in order to hold the throne forever.

1) No, it doesn't. The list still specifies Joseph. Then it says, son of Heli. Where do you get Mary from?

2) Your conclusion that Mary had descended from David is based on an earlier assumption that the lineage is indeed Mary's. In other words, this is circular reasoning.

Calm down.