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If some of you guys are really serious about getting a girl or being good with girls and are willing to commit and put the effort in then read a book written by neil strauss called "The game" and then read "the mystery method" by mystery. If you don't care about how you act around women or getting the girl then disregard my post. I haven't posted on the forums for a long time but I felt compelled to write this post. I casually follow vgchartz but not nearly as much as I used to