So Detroit is now Bankrupt...

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killerzX said:
thats an utter ridiculous lie, and you know it.

1. 8 hr work days with above minimum wage was implemented without unions. (see: henry ford)

2. and if a company decides it wants to implement a 16 hr work week (you mean day) and pays its employees a couple bucks, i say let them. and let see how many people decide to work for them, and how long they stay in business with those kinds of business practices.

you really dont have any concept of reality when it comes to how markets and businesses operate, do you?

3. "The way i see it why should the lazy executive get millions and yet the hard working people who make the products, the workers get barely enough to live on?"

 seriously or you guys trying to be parodies of communists? is this some kind of joke. ceo's dont work? only their employees are hard working? I would like to see a company be run without a ceo, or with one of those "hard working people" be the ceo, and see how long the company stays solvent.

and those poor working, forced into slave labor, getting paid pennies a day, being abused by their bloodsucking bosses. dont make me laugh

1. Trade Unions were campaigning about an 8 hour day at the beginning of the 20th century if not before. That was still before Henry Ford, even though he may have been of the first to establish it in his company.

2. No it shouldn't be allowed in ANY country. That is pure exploitation. Yes, we need to work but a 16 hour day for peanuts is really stupid and we people need a life outside of work. An 8 hour day is enough for most people. Obviously, in the developed world it wouldn't be exceptable but it shouldn't be any more exceptable in the developing world. It is only excepted that they get exploited because these TNC's go in and almost instantly destroy the local competition often through corruption with state officials and so the TNC's can do what the fuck they like or the worker starves. It's not right, that's why trade unions are needed, so the workers can get a better deal out of their employers. You know it's true because the TNC aims to maximise profit and it will cut ANYTHING to do so including safety measures, wages and worker benefits, while making them work harder. Profit is the only, a company sees, it has no morality. 

3. I'm not a parody but i'm not a communist either. I'm socialist. But go on, try to convince me that CEO's deserve millions of pounds while their workers are lucky to get above minimum wage. Workers have to stick to their contract hours, you are lucky to get a CEO to turn up to work every day.

But haven't you heard of the Worker self-managed factories in Argentina? ~http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyxW4xDq_eE

That proves to work well without any hierarchy. 

Also, if child labour and working for virtually nothing isn't slavery, it certainly is close enough to actually be slavery. 

Like the case of Primark subcontracting to those who employ children in India and pay them almost nothing ~http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWio7NVOnaI

And you think nearly every other TNC does the same sort of thing as Primark