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killerzX on 22 July 2013
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Mr Khan said:
killerzX said:
Mr Khan said:
 

Unions protect us all from exploitation, and are the only reason that a 40-hour work week is the standard. Too much Union power is not the answer, but neither is a lack of unions.

If all of the working class suffers in poor working conditions, who is going to drive the economy? The super-rich can only buy so many yachts.

except for the inconvienient fact that the 40 hr work week was implemented without unions.

and no, unions dont protect us from exploitation, in fact they like bending us over and giving it to us. they free market and the free transferance of information is what protects us from exploitation. which is why when a state becomes right to work (giving people the option to opt out of the union, not being forced into it) almost everybody leaves the union. 

at bolded: you are seeming more and more each day to actually be a parody of a socialist, and not a genuine statist.

The employer holds the natural bargaining power in any given situation. The workers need mass representation in order to prevent exploitation. If you don't think this country isn't absolutely stupid with worker exploitation (from the so-called job creators) today, then there is no hope for you.

because people manipulate the market. if you think we are anywhere close to free market then there is no hope for you.

being an employee is a voluntary contract. the employee holds just as much bargaining power as the employer.

and i dont have anything against mass representation of employees, i just want them to have the choice wether or not to have this representation. and actually force the unions to prove their worth. which in virtually every case when given the option, unions fail to prove the provide a beneficial service.

but i like how you completely ignore that you claim about 40 hr work was exposed as the falacy that it is. its a complete lie and you know it. yet you repeat this lie, and get called out on it every time. it dont see why you keep doing it. but as the saying goes, and democrats make into a past-time, if you repeat a lie long enough people will start to believe it. unfortunately with the democrating  base of the low information voter, the saying proves to be true.