| scat398 said: Its not apropriate to label it radical either, it is far from it. It is an opinion that has been around for a long time and has proven well to society. Now as I stated I personally I think gay marriage can be a good thing for marriage, and frankly good for the gay community as well. But, like any normal conservative I like to see results and I am cautious in my nature, something my liberal friends loathe but could certainly stand to learn from.
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Not everyone who is a self-described liberal is also someone who wishes to see absolutely every last foundation knocked out. In the United States alone there are plenty of people who wish to see gay marriage legal across the board but don't believe in banning guns or allowing immigrants to come and go as they please. This is a problem you will constantly run into. Blanket statements on people of all ideals. If you believe in gay marriage you must be a hardcore liberal and if you believe in the right to bear arms you're a hardcore conservative. It's ridiculous.
You made a point in a previous post to basically say that the liberal mindset is to change anything and everything even if for no reason. The counterpoint can be made of conservatives who wish to either keep things as they are or even revert them back regardless of if there is a reason or not. Women and minorities having virtually no rights in the United States was the conservative ideal for a long time. There was really no good reason for that. "It's just the way things have been" is quite often the only real excuse they can bring to the table on many topics. Typically, what has 'served us well' has really only served certain groups and any time that systemic preferential treatment is threatened the doomspeak comes out and we're all told it's the end of the world. It's pretty much the equivalent of an only child throwing a fit because now there is another child that gets attention. Slavery was a rampant concept that many found completely acceptable. It's thanks to the liberal minds of those times that slavery was ended.
When we're talking about ending things that hurt other people or ending barricades to fair treatment, there should be no hesitation. If you want to hesitate about something, hesitate (at the very, very least) if someone tries to make sex with an 8 year old legal or tries to say that Asians should be allowed to drive beyond the speed limit when everyone else has to obey it or tries to make it legal to kill someone's pet if they don't immediately return your lawnmower. I may be liberal on certain topics but you damn sure will see me pounding conservative drums if things like that are being pushed and I suspect that most people who are labeled as 'damn libtards' would agree with me.
