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Xenostar on 19 July 2013
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landguy1 said:
Zekkyou said:
In all honesty it feels more that they have come to see how important the indie community is and are now doing another 180 on the matter, just behind closed doors. As long as they bring proper support come launch day, all is well.

I have seen a number of comments similar to this.  How do any of the people associated with or posting on VGChartz have any real idea how M$ has been dealing with indies from the start?  We have no idea...  We also have no idea how Sony has been dealing with them.  I am sure it will come out in the distant future, but we will have no real idea for some time.  The few "articles" that I have found on the net pertaining to this don't have any real info, they just seem to be "bloggers" and "writers" that are sharing an opinion but no real info on the matter. 

If we step back and look at this a little different, we can see that the XBone has the Windows RT OS running on it.  The Win RT OS has 100,000+ apps now available to it.  Do we really think that M$ isn't going to have some ability to run most if not all of those apps on the XBone?  Now, of course a large chunk of those are silly and stupid, but what this will do is allow any developer to make a game that works on the 100+ million windows 8 pc's and with probably small changes also work on XBone.  Will these apps be AAA games?  NO, but most independant games usually aren't anyway.  But, they will allow people to go after creating new and unique things to the XBone.

Just my opinion, but that's the whole point of these posts on here anyway isn't it?

I know because i worked on an xbla game at a previous job and it was not the greatest experience dealing with MS, weve also seen many other indie devs talk vocally about how bad they found it ( See Braid and Fez Devs and many more ).

Its something MS really need to work on and i really hope that they mean it this time. Xbox is a massive viable platform and most likely will be next gen too, so we (devs) dont need unecesary barriers. 

And dont bother comparing it to Win RT apps, the process is completley differnt to XBLA. It shouldnt be but right now it very much is. I understand they dont want XBLA full of fart apps like XBIG was, but a very simple approval process compared to what is currently in place would stop that.