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of course they are com,epterting. It isn't as blakc and white as "hardocre" and "casual", it si fvery grey, and that doesn't even count "maintstream" gamers, the ones that buy 4 or 5 "hardcore" games for the fduration of a cosnoels life. If they aren't competeing, then this generatiion is pathetic. in it's 3rd year and less than 30 million consoles sold (if you exclude the wii from actually competeing in this generation). If the wii isn't a real "next gen" console, then the "next gen" genertation is a massive failure in sales.



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