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Imaginedvl said:
naruball said:
happydolphin said:
naruball said:

It stil does not make it a fact. The word "fact" is misused all the time especially in forums and this is one of those cases.

E.g. There are more Sony fans than MS fans on VGC: fact

        Wii has sold more than Ps3 and xb360: fact

        Sony fans are annoying (according to MS fans) : opinion

No, it's more like:

Sony fans are annoying: opinion

Sony fans are annoying according to MS fans: fact.

Seriously, this is not a proper use of the word "fact". You might disagree, but even the bolded is improper. If you read any scholarly books, you'll realize that the editor would never allow for the word "fact" to be used in such context (I'm writing a PhD thesis and have been warned about this by my supervisor who's been lecturing for decades). A more factually correct sentence would have been: "the statements of the  majority of active users on vgc who use xbox as their primary console suggest that they consider statements made by Sony fans annoying." We don't know how xbox lurkers feel about it, we don't know if people who support ms are actually ms fans or xbox owners, we don't know if their opinion of sony fans changes some times, etc. We can't talk about facts when there isn't 100% certainty.

Dude... Seriously... 100% fact or not... It has nothing to do with an oppinion or personnal preference and this is the whole point here.
This guy is arguing since yesterday on that and he is wrong; and frankly he is derailing the thread quite a bit with that.

Now I can agree with you that we cannot be 100% sure about how ALL Xbox fans are feeling; but it is safe to say at least 90% are... :) But come on; that's not really the issue here.

There are two others besides me telling you that you are using the word "fact" incorrectly, and zero used what so ever telling you that you are using it correctly.

I wonder who is right? hmm.

You can bend the words and avoid the point as much as you want but what remains is still you incorrectly saying "fact" when it is not a fact, it has been stated by others not just me but the logic and correct usage of such a word seems lost on you, unsurprisingly.