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dsgrue3 on 18 July 2013
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sales2099 said:

Your personal preference to game on a PC has nothing to do with PS3 having more games not on 360 or vise versa for a particular year. For the sake of a rivalry, tunnel vision and excluding all others comes with the comparison. In the end, it isn't about what you can play, its about what the console can play.

Your stance is far from universal, and neither is mine, so its better to just go unbiased and just do a 1 vs 1 with no outside factors. What you make of the end list is up to you.

Worst case from your position: Xbox 1 gets more games not on PS4 for holiday 2013. Would you A. defend this outright out of a sense of honour for your camp, or would you B. write it off because you can just play some X1 games on Windows 8 if you so choose to? A 1 vs 1 list is just that, a very closed off comparison. Any otuside factors don't mean anything, except how you choose to interpret the games on each one.

You're very tiring, dude. 

You want to analyze based on no PC. That's unrealistic in my opinion. Move on.

Vetteman94 said:
dsgrue3 said:

I can, actually. Because it isn't if you have a console do you own a gaming PC,  It's if you own a gaming PC do you own a console because the PC gaming market is the size of the entire console market combined.

You're choosing to ignore facts. Time to face reality and simply admit you're arguing from a minority position.

Well you are also assuming there is a huge overlap in PC gamers and console gamers, which you have no facts to back that up or any of your other claims either.  And how many in that PC gaming market are Facebook gamers and what not,  not exactly the type to be buying consoles.  You keep claiming you have facts yet fail to provide them,  and don't sit there and claim its common knowledge either or for me to go get them as its not my responsibility to provide that information.   

And again no you can't assume anything.   

None are included who "facebook game". If I include them, it expands tremendously, to 4x the size of the console space.

I'm presuming that there is quite a bit of overlap. >50% is sufficient for my argument. I'd be astonished if it weren't the case, but you are correct I have no hard data (nor could I find any) to support any position - yours or mine. It simply makes sense for this to be the standard scenario.