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Kasz216 on 17 July 2013
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dallas said:
spurgeonryan said:
dallas said:
Zimmerman is a really bad example for this proposition bc he had influence over the cops bc they were worried that zimmerman might be a coworker someday, and he knew the legal system pretty well, so he can effectively bullshit his way through his trial.


Anyone can! That is the problem. Jury's are a joke. They can go either way and it is not even based on evidence. It is based on our retared legal system, and the jury's inability to think for themselves. They just want to go home. Or they are not paying attention. Plus while the jury is out, both sides have a chance to talk with the judge off the record. The Jury would never know about it! Shouldn't they know when one side or the other are trying to keep something from the jury?

Fine, but even with a judge-based system you will have people, like zimmerman, that would be more informed than the average citizen of the legal system, and how to maneauver safely within it. 

 

Also, it probably isnt as much of a result of a jury-based system, but rather the bias in criminal courts towards a defendant's innocence when in doubt.


That and judge based systems tend to be FAR more biased towards the afluent and famous then even US courts.

 

Juries at least tend to have a few people that can sympathise and think like people who aren't the higher crust of society.  If you think juries can be bamboozled assuming "black urban youths" can be dangerous...

Judges would be 10X worse... as for most of them, the only time they see a minority is in the courtroom.