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TheProphet said:

1. My beef is with the limited understanding of reality by the game developers. The young girl in the gamee, Ellie is obscene, and disrespectful of her elders.

2. And for somee reason, with next to no experience in life she is somehow endowed with a deeper understanding of life than Joel, the adult.

3. An adult female at the beginning of the game is extremely violent which is such an unrealistic portrayal of women. Do the game developers think that they are being 'progressive' by living in a delusion. What do you think?

4. Also, the game developers leave it up to Ellie, the young girl  to decide whether there is a heaven or not. And of course she selfconfidentally says she doesn't think so. So according to the game deveelopers there is no point to life. Life is crap, we live and die, and that's it.

5. This is the shallowest, unthoughtful point of view that I can imagine. There is no rational reason to believe this point of view. And there is no reason given to support this nihilism. 


1. How does this portray a limited understanding of reality? A lot of girls in today's society are obscene and disrespectful to elders. I assume it might be much worse in a world with little food, and threats from the infected and hunters.

2. How does she have a deeper understanding of life?

3. This adult female is not trying to portray the typical female of today. Are you trying to imply that woman are incapable of being extremely violent, even though men are? That's sexist. 

4. Ellie's beliefs are not the same as the creator's beliefs.

5. Can you prove that there is a heaven? If not, you have no reason to assert that disbelief in heaven is shallow, unthoughtful, or irrational.