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theprof00 said:
endimion said:


well yeah and in my teens I had to use a pay phone to call home, and I wasn't annoyed by a freaking phone ringing when ever where ever....

I totally agree this shouldn't be a standard in the industry.... but it shouldn't be a big issue if it does.... bad internet connection for most gamer is a thing of the past.... while I understand it would have been a big deal 10 years ago (not for me though, got broadband high speed internet since 1997 :P ) it is not really the case today and it won't be at all 10 years from now....

things are going much much faster now... rentability is essential and they can't have crazy dev periods to achieve that on that kind of title and we are in a launch windows like you said.... this will occure more and more sadely but at the same time it will be less and less an issue for anybody.... I even doubt it is really one today in all honesty....  even my grandma has an internet connection

I agree, but like I've said in other threads, the xbox one's main problem is that it's 2-3 years too early.

Check this out:
http://www.internetworldstats.com/top25.htm

http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm

Spain, a launch country, has a 65.3% internet penetration rate.
Brazil, ~45%.

Like I said, this isn't a huge issue, seeing as how USA is really the most important region sales wise....but it's definitely still an issue for people other than myself who live in other countries.

You are right that internet problems are a thing of the past, and this DOES seem to be extenuating circumstances, and hopefully they reprint the game with the data included at some point (like, immediately).

hmmm yeah well not saying those number have no value.... but they take into account the entire population of the country.... an interesting number for us would be the penetration ratio of good enough internet connection in gamers household....

cause the millions of shanty town dwellers of brazil are not consoles customer material anyway.... as well as the older population of spain in their 60s ++

when you seen XB 360 having what 40 million XBL gold accounts (i think that's the number) and you see how many have internet and don't want to pay a for a gold account.... I'd be surprised if the issue is real for more than a couple percent of the consoles potential owners  if that... I mean people that have absolutely no access to internet beside not wishing to have one..... and the XB1 is clearly designed to be Kinected ;P even the PS4 to some extend.... having any HD consoles without a PSN or silver account connected from time to time.... is like having a phone without a plan IMO... you might aswell get something else...