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curl-6 said:
So they're doubling the cost to include something their fanbase doesn't want? Genius.

The problem with gimmick hardware is that they have niche uses.

I think the Kinect 2.0 will have the same problem as the Wii U's Gamepad... how do you explain why that thing is there adding cost to initial purchase? What games are justifying that additional cost?

Do all/most of the buyers of Xbox One or Wii U care about those particular games that do make use of the additional peripheral?

I mean Pikmin 3 can be played without Gamepad... so can many other Wii U games. In many cases the Wii U Gamepad is not necessary and a Wiimote+Nunchuk or Pro controller can be used.

That is the problem that Xbox One will also face with the Kinect 2.0

I think in hindsight, Sony was the wiser one to not include their camera accessory in the initial purchase to keep that up-front cost down and choice with consumer.