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timmah on 16 July 2013
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S.T.A.G.E. said:
Max King of the Wild said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Max King of the Wild said:
bluesinG said:
 

That's why, morally, I think Zimmerman is guilty.

Way to not even know the facts of the cases you are comparing. people like you should be ashamed


I don't know if I can say Zimmerman is guilty, but he's right where he said, "Zimmerman followed Martin in his car, called 911 who told him to stay in his car, ignored that advice, brought his gun out of his car.."

The rest has no evidence to back it up. We don't know who confronted who, so he's presuming there. 

Fact: If Zimmerman would've listened to the dispatch, the kid would be alive and Zimmerman could've gone on with his life. The cops would've circled the community searching for suspects.


Fact: you don't know the details either. Dispatch never told him to not get out of the car. They suggested to not follow trayvon. Zimmerman said okay. The dispatch said police are on their way do you want them to meet you when they get there. Zimmerman said yes have them call me so I can tell them where Im at


I never said I knew the details that would've created the fight sequence, but there obviously was a confrontation. If theres any uncorroborated evidence I haven't spoken about it. Theres no point in speaking about what you don't know or accepting testimony that has no facts to prove it unless its coming out of the mouth of a witness, not first party. 

Fact: Dispatch never told him not to follow, but the strongly suggested not to follow. 

Fact: Zimmerman said ok, and it sounded like he quickly stopped running at that point, then continued to get less winded through the call, suggesting he's either stationary or at the very least, not pursuing anybody.

Fact: Zimmerman continued to follow.

Nope, he'd lost Trayvon at this point, you can't follow what you can't see. There's no indication as to what Zimmerman was doing in the call, he was getting less and less winded, so he certainly wasn't pursuing anybody. He could just as easily have been standing on the sidewalk looking around while he talked to the dispatcher.

Fact: Dispatch suggested him meeting a cop out in front (zimmerman suggested by the mailboxes), which again suggests to stop tailing the kid since the cops were on their way. (my guess was because they needed the profile and would need him near when circling the area)

Fact: He can't be tailing somebody whom he doesn't know the whereabouts of.

Fact: Zimmerman agreed, and then continued to follow and went back on his word telling  the dispatch just to have the cops call him  since he was so desperate to catch the kid after he disappeared.

Fact: This is your opinion, nothing more. To play Devil's advocate, what if he was heading back to his truck to continue to drive around, and that's why he said 'have them call me'? He'd already lost Martin, so there's no following or 'tailing' possible here, that much is clear.