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kowenicki said:
Lafiel said:
kowenicki said:

and "massive fees for console games"?  are you having a laugh? its a couple of cents per disc.

It's several dollar/euros per copy (I'm talking about the fee pulishers have to pay the console manufacturer)

you can easily tell by the difference in price between PC and console games

what does that have to do with the analogy given?

what does fees paid to console manufacturers by publishers have to do with blu-ray licensing fees?

*sigh* I guess I suck at explaning things in english, so another try:

from my original post:

"the BD Association collects some license fees for using BD and MS some for using Direct X and the like, but both of those are pretty much scraps and don't even begin to compare to the massive fees for console games (or for Steam sales or Apple App-Store sales and so on, which are legitimate "eco-systems")"

the first part says "yes, BDA and MS get some money from each disc/each game for windows"

the second part says "but that's nothing compared to the money real 'eco-systems' get per copy"

my examples for "eco-systems" here: consoles, steam, apple