So an Abortion limiting bill passed in my state, Texas

[Mr Khan]

LemonSlice said:

Mr Khan said:

Calmador said:

I consider abortion murder.

I can't believe people don't see it... it puts me in awe that some how... tearing a child into pieces is so different from tearing a child into pieces when the child is the whom.

We live in a monstrous time.

So, I'm glad about this but this isn't enough.

The rationale for defining human life as "sacred and inviolable" should be Decartesian: Sentient thought or the capacity to do so is what separates us from the animals, humans incapable of doing so (note, the bar for sentience is decently low, so the mentally handicapped and toddlers still qualify) do not qualify for the same degree of consideration (note that this does not mean a total lack of consideration. All life deserves some respect, but all non-sentient life should ultimately be disposable if doing so is for the best)

Would you be okay with your mother having aborted you? Do you love her enough to give her that kind of ultimate freedom? Would you be okay with not existing if that's what someone decided is for the best? If everything you've ever been is part of the same life, why is at any point your life less valuable?

 

And does thinking the bolded part really separate us from animals?

If my mother had aborted me, I would have never existed, effectively. It really runs into the "would the world be better off if I had never been born?" question, which is hard to answer.

Some parts are intrinsically less valuable due to a lack of ability to perceive the "self." If we cannot perceive the "self" (for instance, passing the mirror test. Funnily, pigs can pass that test whereas infants cannot), then we are not what makes us human. For healthy fetii, of course, they have the capacity to reach that point, but we cannot certainly say that they are on the level with a thinking human. Similarly with people who are in persistent vegatative states (that is, unable to think now and in the future)