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Max King of the Wild said:
enditall727 said:
Max King of the Wild said:

He never said he hit trayvon. All the evidence supported Zimmermans story. Thats why there wasnt an original arrest. Trayvon had no marks and Zimmerman had a busted nose and scuffs on his head along with other bruising that was caused by at least 8 different hits according to the defenses ME... ya know the one the prosecutions ME cited... ya know the renowned ME who has no loyalty to either side.


Its not about Zimmerman "sucking" at it. That dude was fit. I dont believe he fought Trayvon back anyways so him "sucking" doesn't have anything to do with it.

 Okay... then if he didn't fight trayvon why does it matter if he took classes?

I've grabbed and took people down PLENTY of times and i never got any bruses or ripped clothes. Evidence for "grabbing/holding" somebody? Lol

 Yes, its reasonable to expect that if a Zimmerman tried to restrain Trayvon like you said (even though he has never tried to before with anyone else and had no reason to with Trayvon) then there should be signs of a scuffly on trayvon as well. A bruise? A scratch? A torn hoodie? Anything? But there was no sign of that

And Jeantels testimony DOES support that speculation. Jeantel heard the scuffle as it broke out. She said Trayvon was running( which he shouldn't have did) and she told him to keep running because he stopped and didn't want to run anymore being that he thought he lost Zimmerman and he was close by his house. Then Trayvon says out of knowhere "oh shit! The nigga is behind me!" So Trayvon eventually says "what are you following me for" and Zimmerman responds "What are you doing around here?" Then hears a bump from the micas if another body came up against his body(like somebody grabbed him). Then she hears Trayvon constantly saying "get off! Get off!" 

Thats all good and dandy except she heard "What are you talking about" from Zimmerman... oh wait.. she changed it to the more menacing version. Also, she didn't tell the cops any of this. Also, the story doesn't make sense since according to both Zimmerman and Jeantel Trayvon lost Zimmerman and had enough time to get back to the house.

 

Some think she's lying about that part though. She was agonizingly hard to understand because she supposedly said tge phone cut off after the 1st bump. You cant really tell if she thought the phone cut off but it didn't because of the bump or if it just cut off according to her.

 

Zimmerman also had to have eventually wanted to confront him for him to call the police and to get out of his car to look for him telling the police to call him back when thet got there

 there is a complete difference between confronting and following. Zimmerman could have confronted before calling the cops. And if he wanted to confront Trayvon this would make the most sense. Have you ever noticed someone from a distance? Maybe someone you found attractive and you let it be known to your friends that you thought that person was hot? Then they said "go talk to her" How many people then chicken out? A shit load. You know why? Confronting someone is a whole nother beast.

And again, my speculatiinspeculation is supportefsupported by evidence..

no it isnt.




It matters because of weight and him being fit 

 

I'm not sure if he ever followed somebody and had them run. He also said that these punks always get away so he sounded like he was ready to become robocop. Again, grabbing somebody wont rip the clothes or scratch/bruse them unless the individual tries. I dont think he tried to. I just believe he attempted to grab and hold Trayvon.

 

Ohhh okay so i'm guessing you didn't read the comments and discussions in the other thread since you seem to be asking about things we already discussed.

 

I'm going to try to link a video for you. Ill edit it in when i find it

 

Edit: 

Like i said before, i dont think Zimmerman is a devil and i dont think Trayvon was an angel but i do believe the Zimmerman tried to grab and hold Trayvon until the police got there and i didn't know that Jeantel heard Zimmerman say "what are you talking about". according to Zimmerman, Trayvon hopped out of some bushes on him and said "whats your problem" then Zimmerman replied "there is no problem" and then Trayvon attacked him when Zimmerman started looking for something when he reached into his pockets. did Jeantel say that that was the only thing she heard him say or..?

 

also, if Trayvon hid in some "bushes" to get ready to viciously attack Zimmerman, dont you think he would have told Jeantel that he would call her later and get off the phone before this big ass young adult jumped out from that little ass trimmed "bush" that Zimmerman couldnt see his big 6'2 ass behind?