timmah said:
drunk said:
timmah said:
He was not stalking by the legal definition of the word, so stop using that term, stalking requires proof of intent to inflict harm or legitimate threat, this was not the case. Zimmerman's clearly stated intent was to keep track of Martin until the police arrived. Zimmerman did not inflict harm until he was being beaten and felt he was in danger of serious harm or death.
Followning a 'suspicious' person in the dark is dumb, but not illegal. Beating somebody just for following you is dumb... and illegal (there are non-violent, verbal ways to confront somebody). Shooting somebody who is in the process of beating you down when you feel your life is in danger is neither dumb nor illegal. It's pretty simple.
There was not enough evidence to convict beyond reasonable doubt, that is also pretty simple
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you keep talking about things after the fact. i'm talking about the moment. at that specific moment Zimmerman is a stalker whether you like it or not. he's a stranger that keeps following someone who didn't do anything. things got settled and information came out after the fact, but not at that moment. you sound like someone on the defense team for muggers and rapists.
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The prosecution didn't charge him with stalking. By the legal definition of the word, he was not at any time a 'stalker'. There is no two ways about it, really. Again, you have to look at legal definitions when dealing with a court case, following and stalking are very different things and have to do with intent. Unless intent can be proven, the term stalking does not apply. You have absolutely no argument on that term if the prosecution didn't even charge him with it.
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like i said, i'm talking about in the moment. at that moment there are no news reports about zimmerman. they are complete strangers. and maybe he turned out not to be a bonifide stalker after the facts. but at that moment he exhibited all the traits of a stalker. and at night when alone, it would be stupid to think otherwise. or do you think he should have asked his stalker if he's gonna mug him? and if a stalker really did turn out to be a criminal then what?
